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Why is everyone so eager to get vaccinated?

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FTMF30 · 15/04/2020 09:39

What I mean by this is that a SAFE vaccine for coronavirus wouldn't be available for at least a couple of years. Vaccines need to be thoroughly tested and, although a lot of Mumsnetters don't like to believe it, vaccine injury IS REAL.

It's very sinister how very interested Bill Gates has become in the pharma industry in the last few years and how he advocates forced vaccines, or at least loss of freedom of movement/access for those who choose not to vaccinate (which is pretty much a forced vaccine). He doesn't care about vaccine injury as we are basically collateral damage to his end goal.

Is it not fair to be wary of a rushed vaccine? Is it not fair to not want to be vaccinated if I'm not fully ware of the implications just yet? When I come on here, I see a lot of people who are very happy that we have to stay inside (I understand the reason for this), I see people who are quarantining food and washing eggs and would take a vaccine if one was available tomorrow. I find it quite alarming how we've been fed stories about death after death after death, really biased stuff with hardly any balanced information. We've been frightened into being heavily controlled and that's the thing that really scares me.

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GladAllOver · 15/04/2020 10:18

How long do you want it tested for OP?
MMR has been available for 20? years and is entirely safe, yet people still refuse it.
There will no doubt be people refusing the vaccine, probably the same crackpots pointing at chemtrails and burning 5G towers.

I'll be at the front of the queue when it's available, in fact if I could be on the test now l would.

Pukkatea · 15/04/2020 10:20

Very curious OP, what do you actually know about the science of creating and testing vaccines? Anything at all? Do you know what sort of vaccine they currently have in trials? Do you know what the risks and benefits of different sorts of vaccines are?

RedRedScab · 15/04/2020 10:20

How do you know the risk is lower than infection of CV

Because a vaccine that causes death at the same rate as COVID-19 is unlikely to be approved?

DrDreReturns · 15/04/2020 10:20

Bill Gates is a computer scientist, though he didn't finish his degree.
As I said previously I'm a big fan. His foundation has done a lot of good work, not least improving women's access to contraception in developing countries.

BoingBoingyBoing · 15/04/2020 10:20

There is a difference between 'rushing' and 'fast tracking' that the anti-vax nutters are strangely overlooking.

Just like other things like 'science' and 'not believing any old shit because they are fucking idiots'.

DrDreReturns · 15/04/2020 10:22

I should have mentioned it's also his wife's foundation.

Emerald89 · 15/04/2020 10:22

I understand why people want the vaccine and to be honest, given the lethality of Covid 19 I would get it. You say some things which suggest you suspect a cover up, that I doubt.

That said, you are right about vaccine injury being a real thing. I suspect some people on here are simply not educated on the subject. It is very rare to be able to accurately prove causation in such cases. I developed narcolepsy after having the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine in 2009, there was a class action lawsuit against GlaxoSmithKline. GSK was indemnified by the UK government, who agreed to indemnity in order to rush the vaccine through and skip certain stages of testing. There's plenty out there to read about it from legitimate sources including the British Medical Journal.

DOI: I'm a fully vaccinated qualified doctor, not an anti-vaccine nut.
www.narcolepsy.org.uk/resources/pandemrix-narcolepsy

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/04/2020 10:24

Oh god another tinpot conspiracy theorist
Shit like this should be deleted
Off you trot op
I'm sure Eamon Holmes needs some mates currently

KayDog · 15/04/2020 10:24

My first Biscuit

Quartz2208 · 15/04/2020 10:24

quite a lot of the background work would have been done with a SARS vaccine as well so most of the vaccines around now havent literally just been created from scratch they will use elements already in play

Baaaahhhhh · 15/04/2020 10:25

That's alright OP - You don't have one, that's one more for someone else. However, I think you should then be denied treatment if you catch it. OK?

shinyredbus · 15/04/2020 10:26

Don’t be so bloody stupid. Biscuit BiscuitBiscuit

haveyoutriedgoogle · 15/04/2020 10:26

No worry OP, no one will force you to have it. You’ll be free to rely on your tried and tested tinfoil hat for protection.

Moomin12345 · 15/04/2020 10:26

I'm more wary of hippy dippy idiots who have kids and willingly expose them to their moronic belief system (ie vaccines are evil and cause a million of horrible diseases etc).

LochJessMonster · 15/04/2020 10:27

MN did not disappoint with the replies on this thread Grin
I’ve got enough Biscuit to last me a while!

bluebell34567 · 15/04/2020 10:27

agree with op. we had first hand experience with hpv one, wasnt very nice.

WhoAmIToTellYou · 15/04/2020 10:28

So many are telling OP to fuck off etc just for daring to raise a different point of view... wow. If anyone is indeed trying to squash different way of thinking and eradicate tolerance then they’re succeeding right now.

GoodbyePorpoiseSpit · 15/04/2020 10:30

These threads should be zapped imo. I’m all for debate but I feel that even allowing them to stand gives credence to ignorant OPs like this one.

whatashower · 15/04/2020 10:31

my first ever Biscuit

scarbados · 15/04/2020 10:32

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RandomLondoner · 15/04/2020 10:33

although Bill Gates is donating a lot of money to vaccine research, he stands to make a whole lot more from being at the head of the approved vaccine

This makes no sense. You think someone whose central purpose in life is to give away billions he has no personal use for wants to make more money?

You do know the charity he created with his money is worth $47 billion?

Theharderiwork · 15/04/2020 10:33
Biscuit
ScrommidgeClaryAndSpunt · 15/04/2020 10:35

There's a distinction to be drawn between "expressing a different opinion" and "talking hare-brained conspiracist bollocks". This is tending towards the latter.

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/04/2020 10:35

Well the antivaxxers can sit at home and isolate forever if they want
I doubt it
As per usual they will be quite happy to take advantage of the herd immunity created by vaccinating

HollyGoLoudly1 · 15/04/2020 10:35

Have my first Biscuit