Worried About Coronavirus- thread 37

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@mrshoho I know I've said it before but the London tube photos filled me with fear. The virus was on the lose, people crammed into the carriage. It is like slow manslaughter.

Yes Emerald and it was still crowded only a week ago so lots of these people could now be incubating it. I would hope by now they have more trains on. I've not been on it but friends say there is more space thankfully. Still all the construction guys commuting in together with hospital staff and other key workers. I'm not expecting the results that China got in getting things under control as we haven't shut down in the same way at all!

Italy are still getting 4k cases a day even now. So this is a long process

Previous research on chronoviruses showed they could survive in a freezer for something like 2 years. Now frozen veg should be fine because: it is usually frozen very quickly after harvest, sometimes as it is harvested. And has little human contact. Also we cook it at high temperatures, which would kill the virus.
In fact any food we cook would be safe.
The big concern would be stuff we eat raw. But I know farms harvesting this summer are providing accommodation to try to isolate their workforce from the general population.

@purpleme12

Try www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

No, USA will be.

Who will be worse?

www.channel4.com/news/Bodies-left-in-streets-of-Guayaquil-as-Ecuador-struggles-with-coronavirus
Bodies left in streets of Guayaquil as Ecuador struggles with coronavirus

But some, less fortunate countries, do not have the ventilators or tests to count and can not even count those who died. In Ecuador’s second city Guayaquil, we found the number of dead just left lying in one street is greater than the official number of deceased.

Aj+ @ajplus
Ecuador's president promised an investigation over bodies of #COVID19 victims being misidentified.

Families report having to search through body bags to find loved ones. A woman said it took 6 days to find her father, after she paid staff $100: "His body was already decomposed."

www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-52210888?__twitter_impression=true
Coronavirus: The children struggling to survive India's lockdown

Sanjay Gupta, director of Chetna, a Delhi-based charity that works with child labourers and street children, says the worst affected are the millions of homeless children who live in cities - on streets, under flyovers, or in narrow lanes and bylanes.

"During the lockdown everyone has been told to stay home. But what about the street children? Where do they go?" he asks.

According to one estimate, Delhi has more than 70,000 street children. But Mr Gupta says that number is really much higher.

And these children, he says, are usually very independent.

"They look for their own means of survival. This is the first time they need assistance.

www.indiatvnews.com/amp/news/india/uttar-pradesh-seals-more-coronavirus-hotspots-125-areas-under-total-lockdown-now-606745?__twitter_impression=true
Uttar Pradesh seals more coronavirus 'hotspots', 125 areas under total lockdown nowThe authorities said that 329 of the 448 coronavirus infections in the state were found in 125 sealed localities

www.thehansindia.com/amp/news/national/sharpest-spike-in-a-day-as-coronavirus-positive-cases-surge-past-7400-616746?__twitter_impression=true
Sharpest Spike In A Day As Coronavirus Positive Cases Surge Past 7400

Maharashtra and Delhi have embarked on aggressive containment strategies sealing off a number of hotspots. Mumbai is the epicentre of the Coronavirus outbreak in Maharashtra and large areas of the nation's commercial capital have been sealed totally. Delhi has identified 30 areas which have been termed hotspots and where aggressive testing and tracing is on.

Rajasthan has seen a sudden surge with the total number of positive cases climbing to 553. There have been 3 deaths and 21 cases of those who were cured/discharged or migrated.

With the lockdown period likely to be extended in hotspots in all states, containment is the next big challenge for the authorities everywhere.

We know what's happening in the US.

Do we truly know what's happening elsewhere in the world?

According to one estimate, Delhi has more than 70,000 street children. But Mr Gupta says that number is really much higher.

😧 That paragraph just brought me up short. That’s shocking.

www.ft.com/content/40a0a566-c470-4aa3-84b7-7ad538124e95

Ferry operators have warned that without government support they may have to close some sea routes carrying essential goods like food and medicines into the UK because of the hit from coronavirus.

The lockdown has led to a collapse in traffic, blowing a hole in the business model of operating the large roll-on/roll-off ships for both car passengers and freight. These services carry a large amount of the imports from mainland Europe and Ireland.

At least one ferry operator has requested direct financial assistance from the British government, rather than tapping any of its emergency loan schemes to keep the vital services running. The UK imports almost half its food and is heavilyreliant on sea routes.

This, to put it mildly, is not good news.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-police-deaths-uk-lockdown-homes-mental-illness-a9459711.html
Coronavirus: Police trauma warning after one officer called to 15 Covid-related deaths in 24 hours
Exclusive: Police officers being called to 'more and more' coronavirus deaths in houses and care homes

News > UK > Home News
Coronavirus: Police trauma warning after one officer called to 15 Covid-related deaths in 24 hours
Exclusive: Police officers being called to 'more and more' coronavirus deaths in houses and care homes

While official statistics show that most deaths linked to the pandemic happen inside hospitals, an estimated 7 per cent have happened in private homes and care facilities.

Police officers are called to every sudden death as a matter of course, and there are concerns that their experiences during the current outbreak could cause significant levels of mental illness.

The Police Federation of England and Wales said the unnamed officer who responded to 15 coronavirus-related deaths in 24 hours was receiving support, but was “certainly not the only one to be dealing with such a high volume of incidents”.

And

Research by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) found that 7 per cent of Covid-19 linked deaths in the week to 27 March happened outside hospitals, in people’s homes, hospices, care homes and other communal establishments.

If the distribution of coronavirus-related deaths has continued at the same rate, it would mean that police have been called to almost 700 incidents in England and Wales alone

“And then to add more complications to the mix, officers are anxious because they’re going out and they don’t know if they’re going to get exposed.

Did someone forget you need the drugs to go with the ventilators?

Red this is all genuinely terrifying. Awful.

That's so awful about the street children. So many. Is there no support at all for them?

Are the police here supplied with PPE?

I read we were one of the largest exporters of opium (for medicinal use). That was a few years ago. Could that be a solution to a potential sedative shortage?

Oh look. Here's Bill Gates talking sense again.

Ooh and look talk of a parliamentary recall.

@Maighdeann

I’m very suspicious of the lack of antibody testing in Wuhan. I’m sure it’s been done, the Chinese had the first antibody tests. But I don’t think they want the results in the public domain because it will reveal just how much worse the outbreak there was than officially conveyed.

It’d be dangerous for them to release information that suggests say 40% of the population in Wuhan were infected given from all accounts they seriously underreported deaths. It would provide false security on the mortality rate and asymptomatic/symptomatic ratio.

We need to be giving money to countries without the resources we are fortunate enough to have. Sadly I doubt that will be a popular sentiment at the moment, even with those who are not facing abrupt loss of income personally.

All the talk about we can't have lock down because the "vulnerable children" will starve and get beaten annoys me. How many kids are really growing up in that environment and if they are then why are they

We need to be giving money to countries without the resources we are fortunate enough to have. Sadly I doubt that will be a popular sentiment at the moment, even with those who are not facing abrupt loss of income personally.

When at the department for international development Priti Patel was very keen on more or less destroying the department because she thought that we should not give British money to foreigners and this was popular with the public.

I don't think the government has moved past this general position.

As if taxpayer funding for free school meals keeps them alive

I read we were one of the largest exporters of opium (for medicinal use). That was a few years ago. Could that be a solution to a potential sedative shortage?

There's already a huge diamorphine shortage in the U.K. we've been told to switch all our patients to morphine.

So no, I don't think the supplies will last long at all

Do you know how corticosteroid stocks are just checking

Harrowing video and report from inside two New York hospitals:

www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-hospitals-bronx.html?referringSource=articleShare

@IwantKoalas Can you elaborate further. What are you trying to say?

Reported US coronavirus deaths:

0 to 10,000 deaths: 37 days

10,000 to 20,000 deaths: 5 days

Reported US coronavirus deaths:

Right now: 20,071 deaths

24 hrs ago: 17,925 deaths

48 hrs ago: 15,938 deaths

72 hrs ago: 13,829 deaths

Source: mobile.twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1249066522468851712