Worried About Coronavirus- thread 37

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That the middle do not understand what life is like for poor people and can be patronising, and that very many families involved with social services are really just victims of class discrimination

justchecking That's scary. Are we no longer growing opium in the UK? Can we use that for morphine?

Are you saying that all vulnerable children are from families that are known to Social Services? Koala. You mentioned taxpayer funded school meals?

Are you under the impression that SS automatically get involved when a family is poor?

Why did you put vulnerable in inverted commas?

I've just seen in media that free school meals are generally and exclusively associated with the term vulnerable children and also that children who have a social worker are described as vulnerable and were expected to remain at school incase their mothers abused them more

I think social services don't need much excuse to monitor someone of low socioeconomic stats

They dont take kids away just because a family is poor.

also that children who have a social worker are described as vulnerable and were expected to remain at school incase their mothers abused them more

Can i have a link to the article please?

No they rarely do take kids away. Just that it doesn't happen in the suburbs. The whole system is more respectful. I don't have a link, obviously I added that last bit

@IwantKoalas You're swinging between one argument and another. What are you saying? Are you bashing SS or doubting vulnerable DC exist.
All the talk about we can't have lock down because the "vulnerable children" will starve and get beaten annoys me. How many kids are really growing up in that environment and if they are then why are they
I'm sorry talk of vunerable DC starved and beaten annoys you. How pathetic is that comment, you do realise the majority of at risk DC who were offered a school place to eat haven't turned up to school. The parent's aren't bothering to send them. You might also be aware of the reports of increased domestic abuse. Abused DC are not a myth or stereotype for SS to stay in the job.

I didn't say its a myth. I think it's exaggerated. At risk children is different

I see too much significance given to vulnerable children being on free school meals, for example

Also I think any parent that made that decision 9s probably to keep them safe

I could be mistaken but I think IwantKoalas is pointing out it's a myth that abuse only happens in poorer households. Is that what you're trying to say? It's such an unhelpful myth. Aside from stereotyping lower income families, it often means middle class abuse goes unrecognised.

I'm saying there is huge media bias toward the working class concerning the term of vulnerable children

And of vulnerable children with free school meals. It is patronising

I didn't say its a myth. I think it's exaggerated. At risk children is different I don't think it is unfortunately. School is a safe place for lots of children, my neighbour has screamed aggressively at her DC daily. These DC are clean and feed so not at risk but I fear for their MH in later life. Unobserved abuse.

Oh i see With you now.

Mine qualified for free school meals.i didn't claim because of the social stigma

She's not starving to death

Mine qualified for free school meals.i didn't claim because of the social stigma Except it. Feck social stigma.
I done similar, I didn't claim for my DC with SEN due to social stigma for years.
Tbh people who judge others are not worth worrying about. better stop derailing thread

Accepting free school meals even if just for a little while can open up a wealth of other help. The school can get more funding, and the student can be entitled to other help, which even includes higher priority access to Sutton Trust summer schools and/or lower entry grades for university.

Yep accepting FSM is a really good idea. Will continue to open up opportunities as they get older. I teach FE - our FSM students get the £15 a week on their college cards for lunches and get given funding towards transport, work experience costs, trip funding and transport for uni open days. So just being registered means they can access more than just a few lunch. Sorry to derail a bit but important to mention this.

the cycle and footpaths through tulip country are closed this weekend.
as are the beaches, dunes and popular hiking woods.
our local park is still open but patrolled by police.

Do you think that parents and kids can't tell the poorer kids from the richer ones by any other means but whether they get FSMs?

Cos inequality is so bad it's not exactly difficult to work it out other ways.

Not claiming cuts your nose off to spite your face and makes it harder for schools in general.

Just take it. Fwiw I don't care who gets it. I get judged as if I do. Misconceptions work both ways. Nor do you know which better off parents got fsm meals as child or have claimed them in the past for their own kids.