Will we be further locked down before Easter - Yes Or No

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No point in putting this in AIBU as it will be moved so unable to use the vote functionality there.

There’s loads of threads about the rights and wrongs of banning exercise or other further restrictions but th3 fact is the government could do it

I think this weekend has shown too many people are unable to do what is asked of them as they all feel their circumstances somehow exempt them and, with a 4 day weekend coming up, it’s going to be too big a risk not to apply further restrictions

So will we be further locked down before Easter - Just Yes or No

yes

and the idiots who think there's not enough resources to enforce further measures haven't got a clue. Some people are in for a massive shock. It won't be pleasant for anyone.

Shame we couldn't just fine them and get on with our lives.

Yes, further restrictions will be put in place. Easter is going to cause a spike in infections two weeks after Easter (incubation period) if not more restrictions are put in place.

Look guys, it’s a loooong game. The virus is not going away not next month or by September. Every time they will relax the restrictions, the infection number will spike again, therefore lockdown again.
This cycle is going to keep going for another year until a vaccine is available and/or do test trace and isolate (like South Korea) to keep the numbers Right down to stop spread of infection and keeps nhs managing - which can be done if the government gets its act together. But I’m not hopeful.

This is SADLY not going away anytime soon.

All of our parks and beaches are closed by the council mabye it's a local council decision? But I'm half and half on tougher restrictions.

Yes, I think tomorrow

GreekOddess you would think that

But a lot of working from home jobs are being lost.

I am looking at losing my job, as even though it’s a software job, and can be done from home, the money funding the software project relies there being human interactions/business as usual at some point

Right now all our clients are closing direct debits= our small (20 people) software team out of a job by the end of the month.

There are massive chain reactions everywhere

I can’t be the only one losing their job despite working from home being possible

I think it’s fair to say greekoddess’s predictions don’t really count for much given even she admits there’s no logic to them 😂

No.

I think they will aim to enforce the current restrictions better before they try new ones.

Better to make more relaxed rules less breakable than to introduce stricter rules which can be broken just as easily as the first ones.

Putting the entire country under house arrest is a step too far for me

It’s the end of human rights, civil liberties and our children will pay for the massive financial crash we are heading for

We're already effectively under house arrest as apart from "essential" services e.g. groceries there is nowhere to go to spend money. The financial crash is happening now. It is already real.

If thousands more die than can be avoided, and if the NHS goes under, the economic ramifications are even worse.

Yes, because of the idiots. Thanks a lot you tossers.

yes, but it would happen anyway, irrespective of peoples behaviour

NoSquirrels

There is no such thing as the NHS “going under”

It is not a ship, that can sink

Yes, things may get horrendous, people in tents dying without medical support

But hospitals and medical staff will not all vanish off the face of the UK

yes, but it would happen anyway, irrespective of peoples behaviour

I don’t understand why you’d think that

If people were just out to get a bit of exercise once a day, there would be no sunbathing, picnics, BBQs, playing football etc, and thus no need for further restrictions

Sometimes I feel the citizens of the UK believe the NHS is some kind of deity, a God that must be appeased and loved and clapped for or it will vanish into thin air

@TheHumansAreDefinitelyDead, off you go, sod off to the US.

Yes.

no

I hope so.

DH is a hospital doctor, and these idiots who are out and about mindlessly spreading this virus are making my blood boil! If only everyone would respect the current social distancing rules there would be no need to take it further. However, I don't think there are enough police to enforce whatever restrictions might be imposed.

I'm googling and i can't find pictures of ''packed beaches'' and parks ''heaving with people''.

I'm seeing pictures of people walking, some in groups with kids. 4 people on Boscome beach ... You're allowed out in a household group though aren't you? The park pics are mostly taken from a worms eye view where you can't tell the distance between one person and the next on the paths. I'm seeing pictures of a few couples sitting on the grass, but there's gaps between them.

These are the most sensational pictures the press could muster up?

I'm not a go'er outer. We're lucky to have a garden and the 5 of us have barely been through the front door for 2 weeks. But i'm wondering how much of this ''you're all not behaving'' is an bluster to do what they didn't have the balls to do in the first place? A full on lock down. There are always going to be a minority having piss ups ect. Clamp down on them.

MotherOfDragonite

Yes, because that is the only option

The US

Have a look at EU’s superior healthcare systems

It’s not between U.K. and US

Though that is what propaganda tells us

Look at Germany’s or Holland’s healthcare systems. Much much better than either UK or US

yes, and people who arent following it now will carry on getting away with not following it...words of advice or £30 just dont make a difference to them.

DH is a police officer and has returned home today saying how many people were out sunbathing in various parks. They’re basically telling the officers that they’ll just return to the same spot once the police have left!!

I think that because I think that the public would rebel against a proper lockdown - a bit like when we got our version of lockdown in the first place - it took a week of people behaving badly to make it as it is now, and yet I believe that it always was the plan to, but the public baying for people to be restricted means that the government looked like the good guys - they made us WANT the restrictions.
And now, I think we are in the same situation.
They may even leave it until after Easter, just so people are begging for it more, but I believe its a ploy to get us behind what they were always going to have to do.

Can you imagine the outrage had they shut us down 3 or 4 weeks ago? When the deaths were in the 10s? There are a few of us who have been watching and worried since this first appeared in China, but most people had been saying a great big fuss about nothing, even after half term with kids coming back from school trips. Accused of scaremongering and being hysterical. Just imagine if they had tried to put all those restrictions in place then?

So now, I believe we always were going to need restrictions like we see in Spain and Italy and France, but the government always wanted to try to come out smelling of roses, so would rather turn the people on each other, as they always have done. And actually the longer people piss around, the closer to the herd immunity there is a chance they can achieve in the first wave.

Going out for a run with your dog in the fresh air is not the problem. The problem is people's total lack of common sense.

I watched a young man in his teens filling his pick-up at a gas station. He was eating a cookie as he handled the nozzle handle and everything around it - naively licking his cookie crumb fingers in-between touching stuff.

Meanwhile at the next pump my elderly husband and I were having a discussion about wiping his card properly after it came out of the card slot. My husband even took one of our disinfectant wipes and wiped the card reader down and nozzle handle after he was finished.

Meanwhile another teen drives up to the other pump in a 70's classic muscle car and touches everything the cookie eating kid had just touched.

Kids...

but the government always wanted to try to come out smelling of roses, so would rather turn the people on each other, as they always have done.

it wasn't necessary for people to "turn on each other". If people had not taken the piss, further restrictions would have been unnecessary.
People have just proven that they are as selfish and irresponsible as the most pessimists predictions planned. Blaming the government on selfish behaviour is a bit rich.

@MigginsMrs yet some Tory voters STILL praising tories and Johnson for their utterly farcical handling of this and ignoring the fact that the much reduced numbers of nhs & police is going to cost a LOT of lives.

@Thighmageddon oh I believe you! My brother had been telling me some of the utter shite people are coming out with and even sometimes blatant cba mainly from drug addicts out to meet dealers!

I think that the vulnerable will be told to carry on self isolating and there will be financial support for those groups. as someone disabled and already on benefits I wouldn't hold your breath! I'm worried sick that yet again it will be people like me who will be hit financially to recoup the costs of all this.

Already on another thread people who don't normally claim benefits wanting the rules changed to protect their THOUSANDS in savings (if you have more than £16000 in savings you can't claim uc) BUT only temporarily...cos ya know us normal claimants don't fucking matter and aren't worthy of consideration.

The utter ignorance and callous disregard and snobbishness towards ordinary claimants is quite something