Will we be further locked down before Easter - Yes Or No

[Bearbehind]

No point in putting this in AIBU as it will be moved so unable to use the vote functionality there.

There’s loads of threads about the rights and wrongs of banning exercise or other further restrictions but th3 fact is the government could do it

I think this weekend has shown too many people are unable to do what is asked of them as they all feel their circumstances somehow exempt them and, with a 4 day weekend coming up, it’s going to be too big a risk not to apply further restrictions

So will we be further locked down before Easter - Just Yes or No

Yes.

My business is my business

Don't be ridiculous. If you're not going to voluntarily reduce the chances of transmitting the virus then you need to be forced to, other people's lives are a stake, a great many of them.

I will ignore any advice to not exercise.

It won’t be ‘advice’, it will be under legislation

It is interesting on these threads that you can clearly spot those people who are most likely to be the cause of any enhanced restrictions can’t you?

It’s the ones who simply believe the rules aren’t meant for them

No I think it will be announced after Easter

This. Why would they say they will review it after 3 weeks and then restrict it again after 2? Why not just say in the first place they’ll review it after 2 weeks. I think it will be for at least a further 3 weeks at that point and then maybe another 3 weeks again with a slight easing of restrictions

Yes

Yes!

Yes

@fartyface - you and I may be playing it straight but too many aren't. There are several threads running on here at the moment where people are stupidly and selfishly arguing to bend the rules and I'm seeing on my local Facebook similar and hearing such from friends in other parts of Uk particularly my brother and his colleagues (police officers) who are despairing at peoples idiocy.

@LeggyLinda that's exactly why it WILL come before Easter, because if we get good weather that weekend people will be prats and break the rules. The beaches and parks will be flooded.

Also wandering if the Queen's speech tonight is going to be used as a way of buttering us up for a tougher lockdown announcement tomorrow?

Just what I was thinking re the timing.

Hancock said it was a minority when was this? Because according to beeb he's just said today less than 30 mins ago that stronger restrictions are "imminent" if people don't start bloody behaving!

The lack of enforcement though is laughable especially south of the border (I'm in Scotland and police here have been patrolling and moving people on/home when they've found gatherings)

They can and should bring in armed forces to police and enforce imo, shouldn't be necessary but as pp said police numbers have been utterly decimated by over 20,000 by the tories in last 10 years

Although op is right if people have fewer excuses to BE outside their homes that makes it easier to police.

And the fine amounts are pathetic! I saw on Facebook earlier a comment about it shouldn't take fines to make people think to act in a way that saves lives but sadly there are clearly too many daft, selfish people who need it to impact them negatively personally before they'll bloody behave.

I fail to see how stopping people exercising would change people having BBQs and friends round to their houses / back gardens anyway. It doesn't make sense

Because if they're stopped and asked why they're out they lie and say getting exercise, if exercise banned and only essential trips to get food, meds & similar are allowed it makes it easier for idiots to understand, easier to police and more obvious when people are taking piss.

For the covidiots it will mean they can’t meet friends and families for picnics at the park, or go and lie on a beach for several hours.

But they aren’t allowed to do this anyway. How will further restrictions stop them if they can’t be arsed now?

I desperately hope not, we have a tiny garden and our daily exercise is keeping us sane.

Too many bloody idiots on threads like this one who are too selfish and ignorant to do as requested so forcing tighter lockdowns.
Just wtf do they need to be told before they comply?
Personally I think offenders should be photographed and the photos posted on local Facebook to name and shame.
Here where I live we see very few cleverdicks and everyone knows everyone else. One benefit of living in a small village.

The lack of enforcement though is laughable especially south of the border (I'm in Scotland and police here have been patrolling and moving people on/home when they've found gatherings)

I’ve seen zero police presence since this all started. Granted I am barely going out as per the rules but I’ve driven to my elderly and vulnerable parents each weekend to drop food on their step travelling on major routes and no sniff of a police car at all

This. Why would they say they will review it after 3 weeks and then restrict it again after 2? Why not just say in the first place they’ll review it after 2 weeks.

Because the weather is nice, and is predicted to be so next weekend.

This weekend has shown some people can’t follow rules

Next weekend they have 4 days not just 2 to think they can do as they like

Nothing in this current situation is set in stone, certainly not a deadline set 2 weeks ago

We have a Tory government not particularly to the right and far from fascist polices society and obviously not a far left government where state control is part of structure policy

Conservative values are very much for the individual with little state interference

I think you are getting your politics confused

Graphista our local force have been out stopping people/cars. And some of the excuses these fucking idiots have given are just unbelievable.

@bearbehind @nosquirrels I know it's hopelessly optimistic but the Government do not want to fund furlough for any longer than planned and the country has to get running again. I think that the vulnerable will be told to carry on self isolating and there will be financial support for those groups.

The moment this happens is the moment that for me the price to pay to avoid NHS collapse is too great

Putting the entire country under house arrest is a step too far for me

It’s the end of human rights, civil liberties and our children will pay for the massive financial crash we are heading for

Too much of a price to pay

Many people die every year from car accidents. Yet we do not ban cars

Medicine worse than the cure

Why would they say they will review it after 3 weeks and then restrict it again after 2?

Because they're worried about the fallout from those who didnt comply thus weekend having a 4-day party over Easter I think. If they think people are relaxing their diligence a bit anyway, then add in the holiday feel of the long weekend, they may be expecting a particularly big risk of transmission next weekend.

And here's a good reason why we need further lockdown.

www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/18359737.thatcham-crash-driver-travelling-10-miles-home-three-friends-walk-dog-crashes/

Today I went out to my local park for the first time. I have a (very very small) garden and have stayed home for two weeks now, minus 1 trip a week to the supermarket. I have one trip again to the supermarket planned this week for Wednesday or Thursday.

As it was so nice I decided to actually use my given opportunity to go for a walk (as I would anyway but I don’t normally go to the park, I get transport to a much more distant spot I know and love - but I’m not going to do that in this climate)

Our park is huge. Large playground, multiple fields with pitches marked out, huge open space. I was very pleasantly surprised.

3pm on a hot Sunday - nearly empty.
A handful of families cycling
About 6 families with toddlers and babies
A couple of runners
One family playing frisbee
About 3 “older” couples - probably 60s/70s - wearing masks

It took me and hour to stroll round and so a full circle (it’s huge). This is about what I saw. Should also say that this is a town with a population of about 40,000 people. Vast empty space today. Everyone I saw was well and truly spread out. Clearly looping round like I was. No sunbathers, no mass groups, no one sitting around. Everybody “moving” so to speak. Playground locked shut and no breaking in.

I think it varies so much on area. Where I am, that park would be heaving on a day like this. I think more people are listening then some of us realise.

greekoddess I don’t doubt that’s true but my point is your order of events didn’t even make sense, aside from the very specific dates it would all happen.

Why would pubs and restaurants start back before other workplaces?

Where would people get the money from to support pubs and restaurants if many were still not working?

Why does travel have to wait another month?

I don’t understand why people think it is a good idea to give up every single civil liberty we have and no one is questioning how many lives this is saving.

This. I think before they introduce more measures there actually has to be a tangible benefit from doing this. From a PR perspective it’s going to be difficult now though as the CMO has admitted breaking the rules so it’s a bit rich to blame people for not following rules as a reason for imposing more when one of their own has been at it. “She breaks the rules and we all get locked down more” etc

Good point re Queenie’s message though

Good lord the end of our human rights and civil liberties

Oh the drama

It’s temporary. You will still be allowed to do as you please in your own home

This will of course have a huge impact on the economy that’s world over

Or we lift all the restrictions and the NHS is so overwhelmed decisions have to be made on what ?

@bearbehind well there wasn't really any logic apart from the "lockdown" which was initially due to end then, furlough which is also scheduled to run until end of May and the schools which I don't see opening until September.

I think that restaurants/cafes will probably open before most workplaces as you can't run a cafe from home whereas a lot of other businesses are managing ok with employees working from home.

But in urban centres, being locked in with NO access to the outdoors, that will be absolutely awful

It IS awful, it's been lovely today, but with no garden or balcony it's depressing.