What’s the critical incident at Watford hospital?

[Momrose12]

Public are being asked to not go there. Does anyone know what happened??

@ShootEmUpSarsaparilla

I know hospitals often declare critical incidents but usually, not due to limited oxygen during a respiratory disease pandemic. I don’t think it’s a crisis or reason to panic, but I can see why it looks scary to many people.

If you’re local to the area this won’t surprise you at all.
Watford is on the brink all of the time. We desperately need another hospital in Hertfordshire.

Ygritte Where do you have this warped idea that us ‘shouty’ Mnetters are taking pleasure in being right? I just can’t fathom your agenda here, along with the Army comrades who have also miraculously joined the thread. Are you on the payroll too? Trying to shush the nation from calling out the wrongdoings of those in charge? Labelling us all as being breathlessly excited scare mongerers? Please, I’d love to know.

The same Armed Service that are currently building us field hospitals Lavender so let us hope they know the sketch and not be snarky?

Thalidomide means we don't give lots of drugs to pregnant women. Not that we don't give lots of new drugs to anyone else. Drugs are routinely given that have not had years of testing. Particularly the prescribing of an approved drug for a non approved purpose. Happens all the time.

Limited oxygen is scary. Especially as we were told 2 days ago that oxygen therapies will be used more because we don't have enough ventilators.

Queef I think if you read the thread you’ll see Lavender was referring to the alleged service people who had made snarky comments further up and not those building the field hospitals. ✌🏼

Thalidomide is used to treat some tumours now.

I thought they said yesterday that no patients were being moved to the Nightingale Hospital in London as it wasn't needed yet? Surely it would fill up if the dam was about to burst.

Nothing snarky about what I said. Unless "snark" is people making accurate observations that you don't like.

i'll say what i like thanks

Is it anxiety making posters so nasty on here recently? It's just getting ridiculous.

Ygritte 😘 spot on

It's not a normal situation. It's a pandemic. The choice is between a not 100% proven but looking very good drug, or death. Patients should be given to option to say no but I'd suggest most would prefer a chance of survival. In any event the antimalarials aren't new. Any side effects are already known.

@1forsorrow I think Nightingale's only for Covid. Watford has had to close it's A&E for all emergencies, so heart attacks, strokes, accidents.

I just can’t fathom your agenda here, along with the Army comrades who have also miraculously joined the thread. Are you on the payroll too? Trying to shush the nation from calling out the wrongdoings of those in charge?

🤦🏼‍♀️

Conspiracy theories now? I don't think I need to say a single thing more on this thread. You've made it quite clear you cannot be taken seriously and you did it all by yourself.

Thanks DarnedSocks.

Apparently ‘being prepared’ is scaremongering

Apparantly scaremongering is “ being prepared”

There fixed that for you.

@LochJessMonster

Oh, that’s ok then.

How is this intended to be helpful?

I agree.
How is shouting in CAPITAL LETTERS and hyperbolic sentences like the dam is going to burst going to help anyone?!
It's going to panic people.
People know to stay at home.
SHOUTING IT and running around threads like Chicken Licken with scaremongering STATEMENTS OF DOOM is ridiculous.

oooh look the great British army are here!!

Jaysus. I swear to God some posters on MN must be primary school age It's like some people never left the school playground lol

We are going to see more of this in hotspots, but this was expected - albeit for beds/ventilators.

Hosptals in the West Midland are expected to be at capacity by next weekend, with the Birmingham field hospital opening then.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/coronavirus-hospitals-west-midlands-full-capacity-by-next-weekend

Why not campaign for extended use of the drugs that have so far shown great promise in treating patients

^Thalidomide springs to mind. There hasn't been enough time for any drug to be proven fully yet^

I do wonder if this will show the public how difficult medical research is, and the high failure rate. If you check all the COVID-19 trials on clinicaltrials.gov have a think about how many will come to nothing - they will show no benefit or actual harm. It will be a handful at best that move things substantially forward.

“So far shown great promise” is so misunderstood in research. ALL products in clinical trials for any condition by definition show great promise otherwise they wouldn’t reach human trials. The vast VAST majority don’t live up to the promise. You canNOT bypass all the principles of medical research which are in place for very good reason.

BBC have just said it was a technical problem with equipment.

They've said it was a technical issue with the oxygen. No risk to patients being treated there but they couldn't take more.

Wotcha how else would you phrase the closure of a hospital a&e department that has run out of oxygen in the middle of a respiratory pandemic? A glitch?

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And the people that know about this are the people working at those hospitals because it’s shared knowledge within the Trusts. We just don’t broadcast the news in the media or tell people about it unless the only way to manage the situation is by closing a department such as A&E. it happens all the time, you just don’t hear about it.

I don’t know about your hospital, but I don’t remember the last time we declared a critical incident because we were running out of oxygen. Or where the solution wasn’t to put into place the normal winter escalation measures.