Grandchildren are next-door!!!

[Redwoodmaz]

I am fuming. I haven't seen my son [27] since before lockdown.
And our nextdoor neighbours have their adult children and grandchildren in their garden!!!
What don't they understand about 'Don't visit family or friends who don't live with you" ????

If the bloody football comes over the fence they're not having it back.

Find YouTube videos of loud coughing. Put speakers in garden next to the fence. Press play on repeat for an hour.

Goodness me, I wish there was something decent on TV to distract people from curtain twitching and judging other people.

Bless you. Not much but cotton wool between your ears is there? Do be a dear and pop the TV on, I believe there’s some news about a virus going on you might need to update yourself on🙄

We do not need general kindness we need either common sense or stricter laws . We need kindness to the doctors and nurses whose lives are at risk not kindness to people willing to flout the guidelines

On this page alone people that you don’t know are labelled as ‘stupid’, ‘selfish fuckwits’ and ‘moronic fuckers’.

It achieves nothing other than feeding some kind of ‘burn the heretics’ frenzy. It is nasty and unnecessary.

Can I just repeat this excellent post from @checkedcloth. As some people seem to have missed it.

I am a nurse in the NHS. I am responsible for 2000 plus staff who are caring for COVID 19 patients. I am anxious for their well-being and safety. I cannot tell you how many sleepless nights I have thinking about our patients and how the amount we have lost already. We are doing everything to make sure they are not alone

I have worked for 16 days without a day off. I am exhausted and there is no end in sight. We cannot take any leave. Yesterday to hear the deaths of members of my profession is heartbreaking

People are risking their lives to keep our NHS running. Please protect them and yourself by staying at home and not having visitors.

People who happily flout the rules by mixing likes this will not have been in isolation, nor be intending to for the next 14days. Therefore they will probably be out shopping or working or similar spreading to others who have no choice. It is our business as this impacts all of us and has the potential to oil our loved one, so those saying it has nothing to do with us are ignorant to the facts

There is, iris , the numbers of deaths each day. Scum ignoring the rules are putting people’s lives at risk, they are indefensible and there no need for them.

Alsohuman NO NO and NO. The problem is NOT people not minding their own business. You would no doubt be one who would 'not get involved' when there was domestic violence going on. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. This is a global pandemic. The instructions are clear. People getting scared and angry at people breaking the rules is NOT the problem and it beggars belief that people like you think that the problem is people minding their business. People are dying. DYING. NHS workers are dying and people like you are bleating on about minding your own business. THIS IS OUR BUSINESS.

IrisAtwood
Where has OP said she thinks the visitors are going to kill her or her family,?

The point is that the combined actions of individuals affect the outcomes of the country as a whole. It's not about taking personal risk, it's about taking joint responsibility for the overall health of everyone.

Op is frustrated and angry that her neighbours aren't sharing that responsibility. Snd the more people that flaunt the restrictions, the greater the impact on us all.

Other people are responsible for their behaviour and you are responsible for yours

It doesn't work like that in the face of this virus.

We all need to be responsible for one another at the moment because mixing with people we don't need to mix with is helping to spread the virus, as indeed is mixing with people we need to mix with, and spreading the virus will contribute to other people's deaths.

Why is that so hard for some people to understand.

Have people not seen the illustrations of the way social distancing can cut down the amount of people that will be infected by contact with one infected person and how that spreads to the wider community.

On this page alone people that you don’t know are labelled as ‘stupid’, ‘selfish fuckwits’ and ‘moronic fuckers’

What, you mean people who feel the national instructions don't apply to them? Damn right they are stupid selfish fuckwits and more besides and what's more, it is my right to say so.

Are you one of these fuckwits Iris, it doesn't half seem to be touching a raw nerve.

@Parker231

People don’t understand any of it, that’s the problem.

Sweden’s chosen not to advise a lockdown etc so I think the figures will be interesting in a few weeks.

I just wonder how many people like @Lynda07 have spectacularly misunderstood the very clear instructions- either because they are stupid or worse they have understood and are selfish fuckers who think they are special/don’t give a shit about the frontline NHS workers who will be having to decide who lives or dies soon because of lack of equipment & staff when we reach the tipping point - when their people die who could potentially live if cunts like that didn’t have their little family get together.

Just to clarify though, in case it hasn’t sunk in you can’t visit family or friends - no exceptions what on earth makes you think you they, or anyone, ignoring that simple instruction are any different? Not enough eye rolling emojis exist to express the idiocy 🙄🙄🙄. You are totally right to feel the way you do OP.

Either way your neighbours are morons, I’d happily call 101 and report them, then enjoy the show when the police turn up and clarify it for them.. (& wouldn’t give a fuck about being the ‘COVID police’, everyone who isn’t a dick needs to be, because of people like that!)

Keep yourself to yourself.

These things have a way of correcting themselves without intervention.

Its not my/your responsibility to police others.
Just ourselves.

@1forsorrow I get that sometimes people go over the top and jump to conclusions. I am staying with my mother is in her eighties and has cancer and can't go anywhere. Some neighbours might be surprised next week to see her leaving the house with me and the two of us driving off in my car. We'll actually be on our way to the hospital for her monthly treatment.

But there seems to be a cohort of mumsnsetters who enjoy sneering and jeering at anyone who voices concern about neighbours having friends over, children playing out on the road etc and say "well I'm sticking to the rules but it's none of my business what anyone else does".

They don't seem to understand that without collective action this will drag on and on and more people will die.

We're not in Malory Towers. Personal honour isn't the ultimate goal.

So many posters who would have been jostling for a good view at Nuremberg in 30s

Hmm, I really wish you could have a chat with my friend working on a Covid ward in Spain and then see how you feel about whether you think the fuckers ignoring the rules should face consequences.

Perhaps have a look at this and decide if you think we should all just ignore them and mind our own business...(sent by a friend - not actually him):

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IXBkjOXiMvw

Would it be better if we stuck to your post makes you sound like a stupid selfish fuckwit?

TBH reporting the selfish fuckers probably is a act of kindness - for them and the wider population. Sometimes the kindest thing you can do is tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.

re the ball - return the ball but boil it first to sterilize it first seriously while we are still allowed to exercise as a family (which we have just done, we are lucky as we live near open fields) as long as they keep distance. Otherwise to protect society as a whole, people who work in the NHS, patients who are in hospital for other reasons, people you have to come in contact with, & your family & friends, don't mix - you could be responsible for killing others - op you have every right to feel angry about this stupidity & the people on here who don't get it try reading about viral spread & the fact that it isn't just the "disposable" old & sick (grinds teeth) who will die it could be you & your family & you don't know if you are incubating it

You know all this stuff about curtain twitching, can I just ask what you do with your curtains if your neighbours are having a street party, complete with DJ, to which they have invited friends and relatives? I mean, you should mind your own business, right?

The restrictions didnt say ;
Only busybodies stay indoors
MN you can crack on and do your own thing.
Visit your family if you stay 2m apart.
There are blanket rules to protect everyone, if we all adhere to them. The neighbours and their family ARENT only affecting themselves, they're increasing contact (potential contamination) which will affect everyone they come into contact with - and if they are ignoring the dont visit family rule, theyre probably ignoring all of them, so that will be a lot of other people.

Iris I think you must be feeling some kind of guilt if you’re taking such offence at seeing those who break the rules being demonised.

It’s not a case of burn the heretics, it’s a case of don’t let the heretics burn us!

This crisis is bringing out two types of people.

What can I do? people. They look for opportunities to do the right thing, they donate, they volunteer. Even the stupid bloody clapping that I hate is something. They teach their kids hand-washing and stay home.

What should other people be doing? people. It's all about naming and shaming and social media and slagging people off on here and being better than everyone at distancing and knowing the rules. Pointing fingers and tutting and curtain twitching.

I work in housing and the amount of calls I get from people dobbing each other in is pathetic. And half the time they've done something outside the rules themselves. Their burning sense of self justification only allows them to see the other person's terrible behaviour.

If your neighbours piss you off, find something to do that's good. Help someone who's isolated, call an elderly neighbour or a friend you haven't seen in ages. Donate to the food bank. Wash your hands again! Don't spend all your time raging about something you have no control over.

I know I'm missing my dds and my baby granddaughter who I was meant to see at Easter

But think of the greater good and safety of us all

Making do with face time

What a surprise, an OP is understandably upset that they're missing their family and following the rules whilst some selfish arses do what they like, and some posters on MN show up arguing the person following the rules is unreasonable.

Whilst the curtain twitching fear-mongers are a little OTT, it's eye opening seeing the lengths some people here go to try and defend people who have quite evidently decided they don't give a damn if people are dying because they're so special.

YANBU - it amazes me how many people don’t seem to think the rules apply to them or try and find loopholes to explain their behaviour.