Grandchildren are next-door!!!

[Redwoodmaz]

I am fuming. I haven't seen my son [27] since before lockdown.
And our nextdoor neighbours have their adult children and grandchildren in their garden!!!
What don't they understand about 'Don't visit family or friends who don't live with you" ????

If the bloody football comes over the fence they're not having it back.

perhaps the news that a five year old was amongst those who have died in the UK will bring them up sharp.

Lola 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Spot on

And the point of the current guidelines is to flatten the curve. On average 99% of people survive Covid-19 so getting upset that people having visitors next door is going to kill you and yours is a little over the top.

I hate this comeback. I'm not so unbelievably selfish that I'm necessarily worried about "me and mine".

Because I have the empathy and awareness to be worried about other people.

People saying things along the lines of ffs just worry about yourself shows their utter selfishness - just worrying about yourself and doing whatever you want to do leads to all of us being on lockdown for longer and more people dying.

I don't want people to die a godawful death, in hospital alone, unable to have a last hug or kiss or words with loved ones - whether I know them or not.

Some of us care about everyone enough to do our bit and STAY AT HOME.

Those who are name-calling and ridiculing the OP and others for caring that some are still not social distancing, what will it take for you to stop sniping and care too - for you or your loved ones to get really sick or die? I've seen posters on here really scraping the bottom of the barrel, even calling people like the OP 'Nazis'. Don't you realise this concern is about trying to keep us all safe and well, especially our loved ones and frontline staff like medics, but even the Covidiots? The virus doesn't differentiate and the behaviour of Covidiots does not just impact on themselves, it eventually impacts on all of us - that is the nature of viral spread.

The other thing to realise is that the daily figure for Covid-19 deaths in the UK is likely to be inaccurate and could be significantly higher. This is to do with when test results confirming cause of death become available, further deaths occurring in care homes and the community, and sometimes a delay - up to 10 days is being reported - from when a death has occurred to when it is actually added to the official daily figures. We may be some way behind the peak.

it's eye opening seeing the lengths some people here go to try and defend people who have quite evidently decided they don't give a damn if people are dying because they're so special.

Agreed Lola. Bloody baffling that people are defending those in the wrong, and sneering at the OP.

I guess there are too many people who think the rules don't apply to them. We have them both sides of us. One is normally a weekend home and they are still going back to London for 2 or 3 days every week. But they are arseholes who don't think any rules apply to them at anytime. The other side keeps her horses at home and had 2 friends come over to ride out with her today, despite having 2 extremely vulnerable people in her household.
If this carries on we are going to end up in a much stricter lockdown because some people are just too selfish.

Seriously @MrsTerryPratchett. If you see people ignoring restrictions that could have serious knock on effects for others especially the elderly and vulnerable and an over whelmed health service we should just wash our hands and donate a bag of flour to the food bank.
Should we sing a verse of Somewhere Over the Rainbow while we're doing so?

Technically if they only meet each other they probably wont kill anyone

This isn't true - they may well kill health workers.

Thanks everyone for more support than I was expecting, tbh.
That in itself gives me hope.

Stay safe.

Stop the name-calling and maybe that will be reciprocated?

Most people are complying. What is the purpose of the continual posting thread after thread about those who aren't? What good does it do? Report people, if you must.

@Redwoodmaz if a football comes over, tell them you're not touching it for at least 3 days as it may be infected!
Can't you play the strapline "Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives" on a loudspeaker a few times?

Op, I'm with you on this. My DC are missing their grandparents but the advice is crystal clear, no mixing of households even if they are family. Unfortunately reality will only sink in for these people when they are watching a video link of a family members funeral.

It really annoys me. Even if all been isolating they still cannot go to each other’s houses. Why oh why can’t people follow the rules

So many posters who would have been jostling for a view at Nuremburg in 30s

@bluewafflewithmayo I take if you're referring to the Nuremburg rallies and comparing posters who want people to stick to government guidelines to nazis.

Bloody hell, just when I thought I'd seen every sort of stupidity on mn along comes someone who takes stupidity to a whole new level.

I'd report anyone breaking the rules so flagrantly. Stepping outside alone for a bit longer than you think they should is one thing, but having the whole family around for a visit? They know that's wrong.

I'm amused by the horror some people have of neighbours reporting one another. If you don't want to do it, then don't, but this isn't some dystopia where the family will be arrested or executed for breaking the rules. They'll get an apparently much-needed telling off/warning. Maybe they'll get a fine. I can live with that, personally.

Because @LyingWitchInTheWardrobe peer disapproval and publicly voiced objection have proven to be very effective in changing attitudes and behaviour.

Should we sing a verse of Somewhere Over the Rainbow while we're doing so?

If it makes you happy, do.

I have to go to work and I do support the elderly and vulnerable and we already know we will lose tenants to this. Tenants we know and love. We're already overwhelmed thanks.

I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness. But then I've spend my whole life in social services and housing so I suppose lighting a candle is my thing. Do what you can do and let the rest go. Because in my experience people people that do that, have better mental health outcomes in these kinds of situations than people who become apoplectic with rage at everyone else.

Totally agree with everything you've said OP. The amount of ignorance and/or plain bloody mindedness on here is staggering.

These things have a way of correcting themselves without intervention

Like respiratory failure, you mean?

@Whitegrapeandblackberry
Children are allowed to go to both parents if your not together x

That's only minor children where the parents have shared custody. Not adult children, who are quite capable of not seeing either or both parents for a few weeks.

So many posters who would have been jostling for a view at Nuremburg in 30s

Classy making a comparison with Nazi rallies there, really making yourself look like a decent human being. Bloody hell.

Watford hospital has had to close its ED. Do you have any idea what this means. Can you imagine how bad that is? Remember we keep our ED’s
Open even when we have dozens of patients in corridors.

What is wrong with some of you?

Thank goodness for the Nightingale Hospital

we are all out in our gardens and with the windows open. I just heard someone call out "Justin's here'', so they are obviously visiting.

And like OP I have an adult child in their 20's who I haven't seen in a month

But it's not about mental health outcomes @MrsTerryPratchett. It's about pe9scting in a way that's endangering others.

If you saw a driver getting into a car who was clearly so drunk they could barely stand up would you just go off and light a candle?