What are your thoughts on China ?

[Wetfloortiles]

Very interested in this.

I don't believe their numbers for a start, and I do feel they should take responsibility for this global pandemic.

You can post all you want from various media sources but to me they are all biased and have ulterior motives that slant their reporting

These reputable outlets are printing things I don’t like, so obviously they are slanted and biased. 🙄 I have linked a variety of sources, from SCMP to WaPo to the FT.

What are the chances all of them are biased? Sounds like the biased one is you.

I mean, if you can’t rely on any media outlets, what are you doing? Basing it on your feelings?

It is more that I refuse to blame the Chinese government for what is a natural disaster.

It was a manmade disaster. First in allowing the conditions for it to happen, which they 100% know about and ignored, and then by trying to hide, downplay and blame others for it.

Conversations about what could be done better next time as a response to an epidemic/pandemic are helpful

They had their chance in 2004 and didn’t bother to change anything. That’s on them.

scientifically not true and feed racism

This has nothing to do with racism. What’s racist about any of this? The Chinese government fucked up, multiple times, and the whole world is suffering

Love it to drink tea out of

The Telegraph reports growing pressure on the WHO. Its independence and credibility will continue to be questioned.

^the World Health Organisation has come under pressure to recommend that governments shut down wild animal markets to prevent future pandemics.More than 200 conservationist and wildlife groups have signed an open letter calling on WHO to do all it can to shut down markets such as the one in Wuhan, China, believed to be the starting point of the coronavirus outbreak.
The evidence suggests Covid-19 has animal origins, likely from bats, and may have come from "wet markets" where live and dead creatures are sold for eating, leading to a temporary ban on the markets by the Chinese government.Until January, such markets sold animals such as live civets, wolf pups and pangolins kept in small cages, often in filthy conditions where they incubate diseases that can then spill into human populations^

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/06/ban-wild-animal-markets-prevent-another-pandemic-conservationists/

China put in measures in February to prohibit markets trading in wild animals for consumption. Let’s hope these new regulations are being adhered to.

The WHO being an international organisation focussed on health have no political agenda to feed with hype or spin

Oh dear, oh dear ... you might want to look at who heads up the organisation, read a bit about his background and consider if you still feel the same way

And it's not blame which some of us are interested in but accountability, which isn't the same thing at all - not that there's a hope in hell of seeing any from this particular regime

If people say ‘unlucky’ and let’s move on without discussing and nothing changes, what’s to stop it happening a third time? Could be worse than we have it now.

At least remove the obvious and stated risk.

@PlanDeRaccordement

Your comments on this thread are indicative of wilful ignorance. On December 30th 2019 Li Wenliang warned his medical colleagues about the novel viru. He was visited by the police and forced to confess to illegal behaviour. He subsequently died. Corona was evident in early December 2019 It took seven weeks before the Chinese authorities acted. The initial response was silencing whistleblowers as local officials prepared for their 'annual congresses in January.' A political decision. That failure to act concerns the whole planet. Because this is now a global health emergency. Everyone has every right to demand a rigorous, critical examination of how this virus emerged and why it became a global pandemic. Those on this forum who want to silence questions and who continually parrot the official line of a totalitarian regime? Peculiar behaviour. Questionable motives. I suggest you read the NYT piece.

www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html

This whole business is frankly Fishy As Fuck

I don't believe a word China says on this and how come it didn't spread nationwide over there?

It did.
Every province was affected.

This on BBC seems to sum it up well

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-52194356

Everyone has every right to demand a rigorous, critical examination of how this virus emerged and why it became a global pandemic

Hear Hear.

We also have the right to want and hope for economic sanctions against
China. The sooner the better.

I dont know if this has been posted before but it was on one of my healthcare workers groups. Interesting insight into how China's hospitals were coping, which is not well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE4JZg2GqM&fbclid=IwAR0e-Otnq6NgpMu0wFlPLr1qhDlxyuO2DV0as5klBwe3wcDLGNwhUdKMU