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Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 3

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Barracker · 03/04/2020 18:10

Welcome to thread 3 of the daily updates.

Resource links:
Worldometer UK page
Financial Times Daily updates and graphs
HSJ Coronavirus updates
Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Centre
NHS England stats, including breakdown by Hospital Trust
Covidly.com to filter graphs using selected data filters
ONS statistics for CV related deaths outside hospitals, released weekly each Tuesday

Thank you to all contributors for their factual, data driven, and civil discussions. Flowers

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Utterlybutterly8 · 04/04/2020 14:18

Actually I thought we'd hit 1,000 today so I think 708 not too bad. Obviously tragic For the families.

I think the highest number of deaths on a single day recorded in Italy so far has been 919.

I’m still not clear whether our predicted peak a week tomorrow is the peak in terms of numbers of new cases or deaths. The Daily Mail (I know) suggests it’s deaths, which could reach around 1,000 a day by next weekend. But surely we haven’t hit our peak infection rate yet as we’re only two weeks into lockdown. I’m confused! Confused

Derbygerbil · 04/04/2020 14:18

Cases down in UK from 4,450 to 3,375.... Not bad news but as I said above, it’s too early to read too much into it.

unique1986 · 04/04/2020 14:20

Didnt France have over 1000 yesterday?

Lockheart · 04/04/2020 14:35

Yes the number of deaths is still climbing, but it is encouraging that the number of new cases is beginning to show signs of levelling out. The drop of 715 new cases today is quite a large fall and could be an anomaly so I wonder if we might see a higher number tomorrow.

Over the last 4 days (including the latest results released half an hour ago), new cases have been as follows:

1 Apr 4,324
2 Apr 4,244
3 Apr 4,450
4 Apr 3,735

Source: datastudio.google.com/reporting/d8319ea4-170e-4204-8f83-ab4c3cead082/page/1M

Although it is still too early to say for sure - and of course, how the British public react to the nice weather this weekend and the imminent long Easter weekend soon after will play a huge role - it seems at the moment that the spread might be slowing (I cannot emphasise might enough).

This would make sense given that incubation times are normally within a 2 week range and we are almost 2 weeks into lockdown.

It is not surprising that deaths are still rising at this stage. If, for example, the average time from diagnosis to death was 2 weeks, we could potentially see the number of cases fall for a fortnight before we see any improvement in the daily number of deaths.

BirdandSparrow · 04/04/2020 14:35

Totally agree Derby, but here in Spain on super lockdown, a drop from 950 is welcome, even if we're not quite at the peak. That was so awful. I mean, every death is awful, but almost 1000 a day is terryfying.

Eggcited · 04/04/2020 14:41

10,984 tests were carried out yesterday in England.

6570 people were tested

I feel daft asking this. I understand some people will have been tested multiple times, but 4400 odd re-tests seems a lot, are there other reasons for the difference?

Juancornetto · 04/04/2020 14:50

I'm not sure which thread it was where there was a suggestion that BAME people may be more likely to be deficient in vitamin D which is important in fighting respiratory disorders.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/04/2020 14:52

I'm not sure which thread it was where there was a suggestion that BAME people may be more likely to be deficient in vitamin D which is important in fighting respiratory disorders.

I had wondered this recently Sad

FingonTheValiant · 04/04/2020 15:01

French numbers have been really high the last couple of days as they are adding in previously unrecorded care home deaths. I’m not sure how many countries are actually including care home deaths in their totals.

GlassOfProsecco · 04/04/2020 15:10

I thought this was a good graph, which shows that social distancing is slowing down the number of cases:

Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 3
Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 3
hopefulhalf · 04/04/2020 15:15

200 odd deaths a week ago so "only" doubled once and 3/4 in a week. Was every 2.5 to 3 days.

Zofloramummy · 04/04/2020 15:21

Youngest victim was 5 years old Sad

NemophilistRebel · 04/04/2020 15:25

Watford hospital has closed its A&E dept to all emergencies today. Doesn’t look good at all

mindproject · 04/04/2020 15:27

Is that because there was nobody in there?

Quarantinequeen · 04/04/2020 15:28

I'm not convinced about new cases slowing. I've been quite unwell with suspected covid and pneumonia for over 3 weeks and I'm still at home. The first week they said 'we will admit you if your lung function drops below x or it lasts more than 10 days'. By week 2 the threshold had changed so I wasn't admitted. Week 3 it has changed again. I've been told by doctors that I should be in hospital for oxygen and monitoring but they just don't have space but I could deteriorate rapidly so if I do call 999. If we are only testing people in hospital but also raising (lowering?) the threshold for admission so only those needing critical care then there will be more people in the community more seriously unwell but not being tested. It also explains our shocking mortality rate for hospitalised patients.

mindproject · 04/04/2020 15:32

Meanwhile hospitals in America, which are reported as being war zones, are in fact completely empty. Hmmm

Sexnotgender · 04/04/2020 15:33

Link for that please @mindproject

EmMac7 · 04/04/2020 15:35

@Quarantinequeen

Totally agree with that analysis, was thinking the same thing myself with out your direct experience. If they criteria for getting into hospitals is stricter (obvious from the high mortality rate) it stands to reason there are likely more and more cases out there in the community.

mindproject · 04/04/2020 15:35

I can't do links. Check out Dana Ashlie on YouTube.

myrtleWilson · 04/04/2020 15:37

I see your expert, peer reviewed research insight has migrated from the "does 5g cause coronavirus" thread over to here mind

Bornfreebutincovidchains · 04/04/2020 15:37

Wow quarantine and yet we were told early intervention helps.

mindproject · 04/04/2020 15:39

I am capable of writing on more than one thread.

esjee · 04/04/2020 15:40

We still do not not the real number of deaths per day though. They are behind on reporting. The other day 150ish were reported and its now confirmed the real figure was 450ish. A good chunk of deaths that happened in the last 24 hours will not have been added to todays figures. The true trend in death rate will only become clear over the next few weeks.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/04/2020 15:42

Mindproject might like to look Inside a New York hospital

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-how-one-new-york-hospital-is-coping-with-the-crisis-11968114

The ambulances keep coming - the sound of sirens a constant theme.

Patient after patient arrives with breathing problems.

Inside Brooklyn's largest hospital,
Dr Eitan Dickman, vice chair of emergency medicine, tells me they have had to rapidly adapt to an overwhelming number of COVID-199^ patients.

Sexnotgender · 04/04/2020 15:42

A conspiracy theorist, excellent 😂 could we stick to facts please. Maybe start your own thread for ‘theories’ rather than post them here.

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