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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36

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TheStarryNight · 03/04/2020 17:17

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MollyButton · 09/04/2020 07:25

I thought this Guardian article was very interesting https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/the-cluster-effect-how-social-gatherings-were-rocket-fuel-for-coronavirus?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other
And it seems to support the idea that: Crufts, the Cheltenham Festival and that football match were all very bad ideas.
It also seems to explain why that guy from Sussex was linked to so many early cases.

For Imperial, it is annoying that someone from an unrelated department also decided to get in on the act and caused such confusion. There are two sets of figures one from Professor Fergurson and another set by a Professor in Engineering or something.
Their is also something about a long existing rivalry between Scientists at Oxford and Imperial.

Horehound · 09/04/2020 08:35

@RedToothBrushomg just saw the guy with the bunny ears on behind the kids. Wtf.

TheCanterburyWhales · 09/04/2020 08:41

The death "rate" in Italy according to a table I'll attach in a minute is just over 12% at the moment while the UK is 11%.
Where is it being said it's 22% in Italy? @Katie2017

TheCanterburyWhales · 09/04/2020 08:46

Here (sole 24 ore daily figures)
Obviously, it's a "who knows really" for every country.
Italy tested double the number of people it had ever tested on a single day yesterday btw, hence jump in infections.

Worried About Coronavirus- thread 36
Mittens030869 · 09/04/2020 08:49

But it isn't 11% really. It's 11% of the confirmed cases, and they're mainly testing those who are in hospital. So it's not quite that bad, thankfully. (It's horrible as it is obviously.)

TheCanterburyWhales · 09/04/2020 08:51

Exactly.

TheCanterburyWhales · 09/04/2020 08:52

Which is why the US is showing low.

RedToothBrush · 09/04/2020 09:06

www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/02/2004168117
Effectiveness of convalescent plasma therapy in severe COVID-19 patients

This is a test not a trial using blood plasma of recovered covid-19 patients. Its a very small sample and needs to be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

But the findings seem to be extremely encouraging.

A historic control group was formed by random selection of 10 patients from the cohort treated in the same hospitals and matched by age, gender, and severity of the diseases to the 10 cases in our trial. Baseline characteristics of patients between CP treatment group and control group showed no significant differences, while clinical outcomes of these two groups were different: three cases discharged while seven cases in much improved status and ready for discharge in CP group, as compared to three deaths, six cases in stabilized status, and one case in improvement in the control group

Perhaps there is reason to be hopeful with this.

As I say, very very small numbers here, but promising.

CharlieTangoBanana · 09/04/2020 10:01

I have a developing situation at home that I would like some second opinions on. When we realised I was in the extremely vulnerable group we spoke to DD who is mid twenties and still lives at home and explained that as she was WFH we would need her to stay at home for the duration (this was before lockdown).

She said she couldn't be separated from her BF who lives and works in London and expected BF to still be allowed to come and visit. We said no visitors and she decided to go and move in with BF.

BF then decided to go home and stay with his parents in Leeds and DD went to stay with them. She lasted just over a week saying BF's parents and their four cats were too annoying so she came back and moved in with my SIL who is divorced and suffers from a range of illnesses (none diagnosed) that means she needs someone to look after her and offered DD money to cook, clean and shop for her during lockdown. DD is naturally greedy and jumped at the chance of extra cash without thinking what it would actually be like to stay there SIL's own dc's are minimal contact because of her insistence that she is dying of some as yet undiagnosed illness.

DD isn't happy, said she feels like a slave and SIL is too demanding and annoying. DD is starting to make noises about coming home which I don't really have a problem with as long as she isolates in her room for 14 days and then commits to not going out at all. Yesterday she told us that her BF has had a Covid test because his mum is a frontline worker, she is a team leader in a 111 call centre and a colleague has had symptoms so they all had to be tested and their family members too. They apparently had to drive to Manchester airport for the test. I suspect they are lying, they have to be and it's so that she can come home and BF can come too.

DD is very typical of her age group, very entitled and selfish her siblings all have a problem getting on with her because of her attitude, especially towards me. DH has a soft spot for her because she's the youngest and can't accept that she would lie or put me at risk. I just think she's trying to manipulate us into getting what she wants.

YangShanPo · 09/04/2020 10:05

Make her stay with SIL she could do with a life lesson.

Horehound · 09/04/2020 10:08

I'd say she's lying @CharlieTangoBanana. I'd make her stay at SIL. She has to grow up!

ScatteredMama82 · 09/04/2020 10:13

Lockdown review today - what does this mean? Are they going to increase measures, perhaps to make sure people stay at home over the Easter weekend?

pocketem · 09/04/2020 10:29

MPs given an extra £10,000 each to cover work from home expenses

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-mps-given-extra-10-000-each-for-home-working-expenses-w0h5sx99l

pocketem · 09/04/2020 10:46

Australia considering a herd immunity strategy to slowly allow its population to become infected

twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1247632450626306048?s=20

IwantKoalas · 09/04/2020 11:15

Why do I keep answering the door to people. Just why wont they social distance

LilacTree1 · 09/04/2020 11:25

Koalas, who is at the door anyway?

Horehound · 09/04/2020 11:46

@IwantKoalas if you aren't expecting a delivery just don't answer the door??

pocketem · 09/04/2020 11:57

Even for deliveries nowadays most of them are just dropping the package at the doorstep, ringing the bell then leaving straight away to avoid contact

Random18 · 09/04/2020 12:19

It seems very quiet on Johnson today.

Hopefully it's just because they said he was setting up and conversing with the Clinical team last night.

But the lack of updates seems strange.

RedToothBrush · 09/04/2020 12:46

How often do we need an update on Johnson's condition? It's a distraction which means we aren't hearing about other more pressing issues.

turquoisedoor · 09/04/2020 12:48

Why do MPs need so much to work from home? Wouldn't our taxpayer money be better spent elsewhere?

ajandjjmum · 09/04/2020 12:49

Charlie
Your DD is old enough to act in a less selfish manner now.

Take care of yourself.

CharlieTangoBanana · 09/04/2020 13:33

After DD telling us she was coming home and that BF was coming too we had a massive row, I've called her bluff and told her that I'd like to talk to BF's mum to confirm her story. She threw a massive tantrum and has maintained radio silence ever since. I'm the worst mother in the world blah blah blah

TopBitchoftheWitches · 09/04/2020 13:41

Have you seen the figure for Scotland for today. Scary.