Worried About Coronavirus- thread 34

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BeyondMy is there maybe an explanation or some statement you can download from a medical or charity website, and keep alongside any documentation you have of your condition? To show or quote from if necessary?

@Coquohvan I cant believe now they are true even with a strict lockdown - the rumoured 40k in Wuhan I think fits with how other countries are going.

Iran is also not revealing the truth - how on earth it can remain the same each day

@Quartz2208

Exactly. Didn’t notice Iran’s static figures.

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masks to citizens this week, as the government unveiled plans to make the wearing of them compulsory outside the home.

Masks will be distributed for free at the entrances to all supermarkets in Austria by Wednesday, chancellor Sebastian Kurz said on Monday, as part of measures to restrict the spread of the novel coronavirus.

Sorry for janky copy paste. Basically Austria is making it compulsory for everyone to wear masks when leaving their home

Beyond I would expect them to allocate oxygen based on the sats reading, rather than on your ability to communicate your need.

I got an oxymeter from Argos to reassure myself if anyone got ill.

I need to get one myself really. I'm worried about getting someone to see me to even take my sats if I'm ill - I've rung for an ambulance before and not sufficiently explained my need, to the extent that the paramedic was expecting a totally different situation when they arrived.

And then I have a load of other health shit that makes me paranoid that I wouldn't notice that I was ill as I'd assume it was the other things.

Generally though - not that you'd tell from this post - my anxiety is hardly there atm

Beth Rigby @bethrigby
NEW from PM Spokesperson: Death figures currently being published are those which take place in hospital.

From tomorrow ONS will be publishing weekly data on death rates to include people dying in the community

Blimey

My cousins' (other, not mine) grandad died this morning - confirmed CV.

“The official death toll for coronavirus is lower than the true number of casualties reported by hospitals, it was claimed on Sunday night.

Channel 4 News reported that an email sent to staff at one of London's biggest hospitals suggested the daily tally, made public by the Government, did not tally with the actual number killed by Covid-19.

The message, sent to staff at King's College Hospital Trust, said: "The number of deaths reported at King's in national figures is below what they are experiencing. It is not just King's but a number of other trusts, and the centre has been made aware."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/coronavirus-questions-true-death-toll-london-hospital-records/

Ah, I see what you mean, Beyond. Sorry. I really recommend the oxymeter- they can't argue with numbers!

To add to that:

“ King's College Hospital Trust said 31 patients had died at its three hospitals over a six-week period due to coronavirus, but that official figures held centrally by NHS England and published by the Government showed 11 deaths.

A hospital source said the deaths required official confirmation and that it took time for the cause to be confirmed after a patient had died. If the scale of the discrepancy was replicated in hospitals across the country, the real death toll from Covid-19 could be almost three times higher.”

This is highly concerning.

Ha, accidental ironic post there. Sorry!

Worried About Coronavirus Thread 35

The figures are late again this always makes me stressed

I don’t understand how they’re still publishing late. They’ve had since 5pm yesterday...

I don’t understand how they’re still publishing late. They’ve had since 5pm yesterday...

That the figures go up to 5pm yesterday do not mean that the Department of Health have had them since then. They need to be sent by hospitals. Can you imagine reasons why there might be delays in doing so at the moment?

They have to gather and collate the figures from hundreds of hospitals, verify them so that they don't have to make corrections later (corrections which feed conspiracy theories).

It's not as if, when someone dies from COVID-19, the doctor presses a red button next to the deceased patient's bed, which automatically increases the toll on the DoH spreadsheet.

The figures could be delayed by a single hospital being late; an email having been sent to the wrong address; confusion of whether a patient did or did not die following a positive test.

Well yes, except that I’m currently in a country harder hit than the UK and we’re not getting anything like these delays in reporting. And the data the UK is publishing seems to have a lag of several days in a large number of cases anyway.
They’ve already changed reporting once to give themselves more time, if they still can’t cope they clearly need to change it again.

I think they'll be bad today. They seem to delay them when there's a big jump.

Although, I'm hoping they're good. I'm hoping we're already steadying the peak.

180 deaths in the UK today

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