Worried About Corona Virus- thread 33

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The U.K., unlike most other countries, has never released serious/ICU numbers. Chris Whitty was asked directly what the figure is in the presser yesterday and he dodged it.

We don’t get permission to release stats on no of heart attacks, car crash fatalities etc why would CV be different?

When they've been releasing them up to now and then suddenly change, don't you think that looks dodgy as fuck?
Also, people can't catch heart attacks or car crash fatalities off each other so this is a slightly different ball game

I think they are fudging the stats any way they can I'm afraid to say.

We have stats on how many are killed by influenza each year. Do they ask family permission for that?

I’m not sure one day on the stats really matters to be honest, it’s the trend over several days that matters.

The U.K., unlike most other countries, has never released serious/ICU numbers.

This INARC report shows the data as of March 20.

www.icnarc.org/About/Latest-News/2020/03/22/Report-On-196-Patients-Critically-Ill-With-Covid-19

I know I’m think it’s is ridiculously dodgy if they are. I’m wondering if it’s legal. I honestly don’t know, I’m hoping someone who knows how it all works will post.

@Bluntness100 no, one day won't matter but if they are witholding them forever more then that's a bit different and that's what it sounds like will happen?

We also know we aren’t at the peak yet, so one days numbers and why they are low is irrelevant, what’s relevant is how it trends and the predictions on when we come out the other side. One day doesn’t tell us anything.

The predictions are important because the scientists who make them have a shit load more information than we do in terms of the modelling.

They aren’t refusing to release the death stats, that’s crazy.

But we don't know anything if they hold back X amount of cases

Scottish cases today

They aren’t withholding cases.

Eve, how is the Gwent looking now? It must be heading towards tipping point there, even if not Wales-wide yet...

Every HCP would have to be complicit in the consent idea it’s not possible.

We don't know what they are doing @Bluntness100 !they aren't being clear.

@Bluntness100 if it’s true that they’ve suddenly decided they need family consent, then they will be withholding cases from the count

There’s no official confirmation on what they’re actually doing yet though

Sky News Breaking - 'A 66-year-old serving prisoner at HMP Manchester with underlying health conditions has died after testing positive for covid-19.'

Sky News Breaking - 'Three more people have died after testing positive for covid-19 in Scotland taking the total number of deaths in the country to 25.'

Carl Zha - 'Just some pissed off Italians replacing EU with Chinese Flag.'

Irene Montero on 8M

"We did what the scientific experts recommended.

The extreme right tries to take advantage of the crisis to attack feminism.

The problem was not the 8M mobilizations, there were thousands of events those days " '

@Horehound

Where's that screenshot from? I can't find it on the @theSNP twitter feed.

In Spain the anti feminist party VOX is blaiming feminists - vox are very hardline - even the main centre right party pp is much more right wing than the tories on a lot of issues.

That's strange @JemimaPuddleCat it's definitely there for me. I came out if it and went back in. Did you go to @thesnp?

Vox also had a big protest two weeks ago.