Wait a second ... how do we do custody exchanges?!

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Nothing in Boris' message about travel to exchange children for contact.

What is the legal position here?

@DangerMouse17 it's still hypothetical at the moment, he text me earlier to say he may or may not be going into work tomorrow 🙄.

My kids won't be going to their dad as he is a key worker anyway and don't want anything happening to my children so it's FaceTime every night for now x

I think it depends on the households in question? I class it as essential travel in my circumstance, (2 houses, 1 adult in each) but if both houses were made up of larger step families maybe I would reconsider.

I'm super worried as well. My dd is at her Dad's and due back tomorrow. He's a narcissistic evil person and will relish not giving her back. It's all about control. I feel so upset as she was so worried she would get stuck there. How can we get clarity on this? I feel sick.

PLEASE STAY AT HOME - except for these limited reasons:
-To shop for basic necessities
-For one form of exercise a day
-For medical/care needs, or to help a vulnerable person
-To travel to and from work but only if it is a necessity.
LIVES REALLY DO DEPEND ON IT.

Not sure how much clearer that could be.

so custody arrangements are a card need, and therefore permitted

care not card, stupid phone

Exactly, nopoint.

Both families are isolating for two weeks. At the end of that two weeks we will swap. Both families will continue to isolate for next two weeks, then swap again. Continuing as long as necessary. I'm very aware that we are very lucky in being able to do this due to our circumstances.

Yes, if your child needs a carer, then the carer would be permitted to visit.

I think anyone who's been through the court system over child custody, especially with an abusive ex, has reason to be seriously concerned about breaching the order by not sending them

But this is an unprecedented situation where we all need to work together to reduce the spread of the virus! It's only for a limited time and it will save lives!

Best if we all isolate ourselves as much as possible and certainly not swap children from one household to another (potentially bringing the virus with them).

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I’m sure in other countries, custody exchanges have been allowed.

My ex is diabetic and asthmatic. It sucks for ds, but I’ve explained to him that the best way to protect his dad is staying away. I can empathise with my ex, and I know I’d be gutted if ds was there and not getting home, but the rules are what they are just now.

My other half is saying goodbye to his 12 year old tomorrow morning for the next 3 weeks. Its not worth it to keep them going between families when someone could be ill. It can take 2 weeks at least for any viruses to show. He's devestated but he knows he needs to do this in order to help things to stop spreading. We've got WhatsApp video calling, another app called houseparty, he can play playstation online with him.
Other friends in the same position and won't see their kids when they live with their mums

Most households have been vigilant for at least a week now anyway. The ones who followed government advice, that is. My way of life isn't actually going to change after tonight because like most responsible people, I've been leaving the house only when necessary anyway.

Under the current circumstances, ex and I don't socialize with others, see extended family, and now both WFH and can get shopping delivered, so no contact with others has to take place. We have spent time in each others company over the past few weeks as is usual for our co-parenting, so already exposed to each others germs. I'll comply with whatever clarification of the rules is provided, but please everyone get off your fucking high horse about how one parent not getting to see their young child for weeks is going to save so many lives when the two households can easily isolate from everyone else already.

So who will give us single parents clarification? Who will help us? It's so confusing

It's not confusing.

I’m sure in other countries, custody exchanges have been allowed.

Lockdown means that houses don't mix.

Person A, let's call them Anne and person B, let's call them Bob.

Anne lives in Bristol
Bob lives in London

Anne doesn't go to visit Bob in London.

What about custody exchanges?

Do Anne and Bob live in the same house?

No.

Then they don't meet up.

This is such a tough call, but we decided last week that they would stay with me for the forseeable. Ex is 100 miles away (his choice) and normally does EOW. But too risky to have them travelling to another location/possibly spreading the virus if they have it. It's an impossible situation, but we are grateful for video calls.

You need to look at how you travel to each other and who else in household. Every case will be different. These are examples assuming mum has kids at moment -

Dad lives by himself Is working from home Not going anywhere and you can drop Off by car?= Fine.
Dad lives with someone else or needs to work Outside home - not fine
Need to travel by public transport to drop off? = out question

Super hard but needs to be based on stuff like that. I have same dilemma and working out basically who takes kids. Partic as I need to keep working full Time from home and he is working from home less Hours Than me. But both know kids would rather be with me than him if it’s for long time and if he keeps he can’t see his partner (they don’t live together). Nightmare

Would be so much easier if hadn’t split up!

@CousinKrispy

Totally agree.

Far better than sending a child to a school full of other children.

I have seen what other countries have done. I honestly thought we would be the same.

There are going to be millions of families in the UK worried now. There are many many divorced parents.

There will be many parents who will think 'fuck this' and not pay any maintenance now. If they paid any at all.

It's such an awful situation.

Choma why would maintenance stop? Contact and maintenance have always been totally separate. Children aren't pay per view.