Worried about Coronavirus - thread 31

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What about those getting off planes from Tehran, Rome etc, where are they likely to head first if they've not got anyone to organise food? A supermarket.

I wondered where he'd been. Disappeared from public sight, but certainly not from pulling the levers behind the scenes. Boris doesn't do decision making. Cummings wants nothing but to make big, huge, life changing decisions. Just read his blogs. So maybe he didn't use those exact words, but I find his brand of evangelism just as frightening as every other kind.

Both Buzzfeed and the Sunday Times have run very similar stories about a lack of leadership and Cummings central role in decision making, over and above many of the scientific voices.

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexwickham/10-days-that-changed-britains-coronavirus-approach?__twitter_impression=true
10 Days That Changed Britain: "Heated" Debate Between Scientists Forced Boris Johnson To Act On Coronavirus
“This is going to get much, much worse, very quickly, both in terms of deaths and the economy,” a cabinet minister told BuzzFeed News. “It will not be long before we are getting numbers like Italy. I don’t think people realise that yet.”
Alex Wickham

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-ten-days-that-shook-britain-and-changed-the-nation-for-ever-spz6sc9vb
Coronavirus: ten days that shook Britain — and changed the nation for ever
How Boris Johnson changed his priorities: save lives first, and then salvage the economy
Tim Shipman and Caroline Wheeler

Wickham and Shipman have very good sources in the current government.

Them both running stories like this does make me think there is real concern over how the crisis is being handled by very senior insiders. I also think that its possible that in realising they've dropped a bollock of epic proportions and they are about to be found out for it, there is a sense of political panic going on as well as one about the health crisis.

There will be a reckoning. Someone has to get the blame.

Dan Hodges @dpjhodges
It's very simple now. It will be impossible for No.10 to retain public confidence if people believe Dom Cummings has any role in the Government's Coronavirus strategy moving forward. So what is more important to Boris. Keeping a single advisor. Or securing public trust.

@selfisolatingsince2007 I really think you need to get the next flight out.

I'll try and dig them out @theskyispurple

Thanks @IronNeonClasp ex research nurse so I may be able to pull something out of them

Have a peaceful day everyone, off I go to continue telling people Italians don't all live together, smoke 80 a day, kiss randoms on the street and put horses heads into people's beds whilst singing Just One Cornetto

CanterburyWhales you disappoint me!

Dan Hodges is very Mail on Sunday. That's the Sunday Times, MoS and Buzzfeed briefing against Cummings - and acknowledging Johnson has a massive issue with public trust. They are 'friendly journalists' to Johnson

The rally in health is what the Chinese and Italian doctors talk of 12 hours before they die. Its terrifying. What the fuck is that about??

It happens a lot, although maybe not to this extent.

Nancypineapple the 10 minute test is made in derby, they’re exporting all over the world but the uk government haven’t ordered any!
(That was the situation last week anyway - don’t know if it’s changed at all since then) Surescreen diagnostics

So frustrating Bessica as the Derby MP raised this with Matt Hancock in the HoC briefing three weeks ago.
He said he'd "look into it"

No rush...

'We aren't going for herd immunity'
'We must protect the vulnerable'

Liars. Just disgusting.

@theskyispurple

Mutation: academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

Blood type: www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1

The rally in health is what the Chinese and Italian doctors talk of 12 hours before they die. Its terrifying. What the fuck is that about??

I’ve not heard of that. Sounds terrifying.

According to Facebook there are huge tailbacks near a Tesco Extra. As people queue up to arrive just before it opens.

We live under a flight path and just saw the first plane I have in ages. It was notable that it was plane company I haven't seen before, an all white plane from underneath.

Rally in health before death is common for lots of conditions, anecdotally.

Oh Supermarkets! stop this madness.

Mirror - 'A further seven patients in Wales who tested positive for coronavirus have died, bringing the country's death toll to 12.

The tragic news was confirmed by the chief medical officer for Wales, Dr Frank Atherton.

Dr Atherton, said: "It is with deep sadness I can confirm a further seven deaths of patients in Wales who tested positive for coronavirus (Covid-19).

"This takes the number of deaths in Wales to 12.

"My thoughts are with their families and friends, and I ask that their privacy is respected at this very sad time.

The Welsh Government said five people had died in the Royal Gwent Hospital, one in Nevill Hall and one in Prince Charles Hospital.

All were in the high-risk category, either over 70 or with underlying health conditions, it added.'

My brother, if he gets back from Cambodia knows to go straight home and self isolate for 14 days. He's asked me to send food once he arrives.

My b/f said his neighbours returned from Australia yesterday told to isolate for 14 days and went shopping

Iron here? Are people travelling told to isolate here or in Aus?

The thing about vending machines and exercising outside is nationwide, announced by the PM late last night. (Italy)

My next door neighbour has “flu”. On Tuesday she told me over the garden fence that she’d been poorly for a week (I was 20ft away and refused to approach her). On Friday I saw her coming home with shopping bags and coughing like mad. This morning she was taken away in an ambulance by paramedics in full PPE gear. She’s only 59 and was clearly struggling to breathe. It’s terrifyingly close to home and just illustrates how people don’t give a shit who they infect.

I can confirm rally of health with my grandpa. He had been sleeping 23 hours a day for over a week. We went to visit him, he sat up ate my toddlers snacks with her, gave her hugs and tickles and then 9 hours later he was gone. Its heartbreaking but also makes me happy that we had that final time together.

They were told to isolate here @MarshaBradyo. Potentially mixing a strain? Right I am corona'd out for a couple of hours...

It's a beautiful day.