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Worried about Coronavirus - thread 31

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Jenasaurus · 20/03/2020 14:59

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Youngatheart00 · 22/03/2020 08:14

I highly doubt it makes any difference travellers from “infected countries” landing here now. WE are an infected country.

Horrible Sunday morning so far. So many sirens. Not sure if I’m noticing them more due to being anxious, noticing them more as it’s so quiet outside or that there actually are more. I’m sure there are.

mrshoho · 22/03/2020 08:15

I'm sure many of them are but they need to be going straight to isolation at home if they live here or government facility if not. They should not be going through our transport system. I don't work at the airport so really don't know how many people are on these flights but I would like the questions raised.

AliciaWhiskers · 22/03/2020 08:19

Agreed about the need to shut the borders. China is the prime example of that - no new domestically acquired cases recently but still getting new cases from people coming into the country. It’s madness that they are still letting people in when they had done such a good job of locking down and stopping the spread. They will be back to square one. It only takes one case to start it all back up again.

MarshaBradyo · 22/03/2020 08:23

Alicia no. They quarantine everyone for 14 days.

Alib838 · 22/03/2020 08:34

On Friday I went to Waitrose and there was a woman coughing into the crook of her arm every few minutes. Now yes she may have had some 'allergy' or other issue but she was very pale and looked incredibly shifty with her chin down. She had a very laden trolley with chicken wings of different varieties, frozen goods galore. Couldn't get more in her big trolley. As we got out of the store my daughter overheard her saying to her friend who was helping her with shopping about going into isolation. Now yes, it may have been innocent and the lady sadly may have unfortunately as mentioned had some pre existing issues however I thought she acted oddly. It made me understand or realise that (again this woman may have not been exhibiting CV symptoms) realistically there are people who are on their own and in sheer desperation will do a pre-isolation shop. Hence we do now need government intervention so that supermarkets can protect their workers and prevent contamination within their stores.

SistemaAddict · 22/03/2020 08:46

Morning all.

Calmonthesurfacebut · 22/03/2020 08:47

twitter.com/johnharris1969/status/1241632642581303296?s=21

Sunday Times today. Dominic Cummings said in a meeting. “Herd immunity, protect the economy, if that means some pensioners die, too bad”

Helenj1977 · 22/03/2020 08:47

Morning everyone. What a shitty mothers day this is. Sending you all 💐 and 🍫 and unmumsnet hugs today xx

AutumnRose1 · 22/03/2020 08:51

Mum has done a u turn and is worried now

She wants me to go mask shopping but there aren’t any masks to be had, are there?

AutumnRose1 · 22/03/2020 08:52

PS I know there’s some on Amazon but she’ll say she wants them from a pharmacy 🤷🏻‍♀️

TheCanterburyWhales · 22/03/2020 08:53

She sounds like she was getting some food in to be able to do the fuck what you're all supposed to be doing. Staying at home.
And she was coughing the way everybody is supposed to- not all over the cashiers.

Red- your extract of about 9pm last night should be copied into every thread popping up accusing people of lying and scaremongering. Thank you. I'm sending it to my (admittedly few now) UK relatives still going "they've all gone mad"

Murray Flowers thank you for what you do. My mum (advanced dementia, doesn't know us) is in a home and they are amazing. In all of this, the one thing about the UK I keep saying is 'thank God mum is where she is"

To the poster saying people will go mad in confined spaces. You won't. You'll thank your govt that they made you do it. You'll feel that they're on your side and doing every humanly possible. Then you'll get on with it.

I also agree with whoever said (can't remember if this thread or another) that the UK is likely to see army intervention before Italy. It's not been ruled out here, but people are much calmer than I'd ever imagined they'd be because they know what's happening is for our own good. I worry that once the penny truly drops in the UK there will be hell to pay, especially in the big cities.

Have a peaceful day everyone, off I go to continue telling people Italians don't all live together, smoke 80 a day, kiss randoms on the street and put horses heads into people's beds whilst singing Just One Cornetto. Flowers

mrshoho · 22/03/2020 08:53

I don't want to stick up for Cummings but I don't think he actually said it in a meeting if you read the piece. No doubt he thought it though and therein the danger of not listening to the scientists and medical professionals.

RedToothBrush · 22/03/2020 08:58

Sima Kotecha @sima_kotecha
Hospitals in region running out of essential kit. President of #Lombardy saying getting to point where ppl with virus will be turned away cos hospitals don’t have room/staff .. Message is stay at home #Italy #coronavirus

DrBlackbird · 22/03/2020 09:02

Sunday Times today. Dominic Cummings said in a meeting. “Herd immunity, protect the economy, if that means some pensioners die, too bad”

I wondered where he'd been. Disappeared from public sight, but certainly not from pulling the levers behind the scenes. Boris doesn't do decision making. Cummings wants nothing but to make big, huge, life changing decisions. Just read his blogs. So maybe he didn't use those exact words, but I find his brand of evangelism just as frightening as every other kind.

RedToothBrush · 22/03/2020 09:02

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-51991972?__twitter_impression=true
Coronavirus: Lombardy region announces stricter measures

The Italian region of Lombardy has introduced stricter measures in a bid to tackle the spread of coronavirus.

Under the new rules announced late on Saturday, sport and physical activity outside, even individually, is banned. Using vending machines is forbidden.

The move comes as Italy reported nearly 800 coronavirus deaths on Saturday and saw its toll for the past month reach 4,825, the highest in the world.

Lombardy is the worst-affected region in the country with 3,095 deaths.

The region's President Attilio Fontana announced the new measures in a statement.

Businesses have been asked to close all operations excluding "essential" supply chains. Work on building sites will be stopped apart from those working on hospitals, roads and railways

They are almost full Wuhan level now.

SistemaAddict · 22/03/2020 09:03

I've just been reading about how busy snowdonia was yesterday. People are fucking stupid.

Coronavirus: 'Unprecedented scenes' on Welsh hills

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51994504

Number12 · 22/03/2020 09:06

@Calmonthesurfacebut that is not a direct quite from Dominic Cummings!

Quartz2208 · 22/03/2020 09:16

red lombardy really should have been full wuhan a long time ago. Its Italy's wuhan quite why they havent yet I dont know.

We have seen the level of lockdown that works the problem is in Europe its very difficult to do.

RedToothBrush · 22/03/2020 09:19

Bcf I listened to yesterdays presser on food supplies. It went further than merely the current shortages and getting food to the vulnerable. When the words 'food security' popped up so my ears pricked up.

There is a massive issue here they are not being entirely honest about.

They dodged questions about the need for rationing.

The press conference was supposed to reassure the public. Unfortunately the take away for me was exactly the opposite.

I listen to these things all the time. I know to listen for key words and phrases and to listen for what they don't so and what they don't say.

Combined with Macron's alleged comments about closing the border which I very much think are serious and not an idle threat, I'm worried.

Fwiw DH spent 2 hours looking at the data last night and believes that a) the government couldn't extrapolate there was a real problem here from it until Sunday night (that doesn't excuse their divergence from what the the rest of Europe were saying and WHO were saying) b) he thinks it possible that people are very very scared here to the point that it may be making a difference in the absence of government action anyway. He needs the data for the next couple of days to see if he's right and has some figures for today to see what trajectory we are heading towards. I'm not going to post here cos a body count game isn't good but I will say if today's figures are at the upper or lower end and whether his theory of fear and mistrust having a limited effect is correct.

IronNeonClasp · 22/03/2020 09:22

Just seen the telegraph article on how doctors will choose who lives / dies at ICU. Whilst I find this reporting educational and great that some papers are reporting facts and I don't know if there was a media blackout for about two weeks but this factual reporting should have been there all along IMPO.

loopylindazdaughter · 22/03/2020 09:27

Is there anywhere that we can see the ages and co-morbidities of those that have died?

IronNeonClasp · 22/03/2020 09:30

They aren't showing them anywhere

IronNeonClasp · 22/03/2020 09:31

Plus a huge amount of stats for people who may be recovering or ill worldwide.

I'm reading about its mutation and blood type but the papers are way too scientific for me

theskyispurple · 22/03/2020 09:37

Have you links @IronNeonClasp ?

Number12 · 22/03/2020 09:37

The daily fail! Are reporting a 39 year old perfectly healthy women died in America. She felt like she had flu, rallied well enough to walk her dog and then died that night. Her test results are due Monday for covid.

The rally in health is what the Chinese and Italian doctors talk of 12 hours before they die. Its terrifying. What the fuck is that about??