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With every press conference he gets worse

624 replies

Keepcalmanddoyourbit · 19/03/2020 17:27

Totally out of his fucking depth

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BuzzingtheBee · 21/03/2020 23:22

I think Boris and the team doing great!

LittleRootie · 21/03/2020 23:23

Not to mention the chopping and changing on scientific advice

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 21/03/2020 23:26

have a serious dose of sour grapes

used to refer to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something because they cannot have it themselves

So posters have a negative attitude to boris because they can’t have him themselves

Ooooo kay

Leeah · 21/03/2020 23:27

With all due respect, the people of this country should take this seriously regardless of how he speaks. We all know vulnerable or elderly friends/relations could be in serious trouble if they contract this. Why do we need someone to bark out of the TV at us, my mum has a number of health conditions I’ve not seen her in weeks, my dad has a cough/flu symptoms I have not seen him in weeks he’s self isolating. I know the risks. Therefore I will not take them. I do understand what people are saying on this thread, but we all need to be accountable for our own actions. We are putting our loved ones in danger by not follow very basic steps!

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 23:29

It wasn't until local news did a feature breaking down advice that I realised I had not totally understood it. They explained why if you have symptoms you need to self isolate within the house. I had thought before why bother as they will have already been exposed.

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 23:30

@Leeah public are not scientists. They need to understand exactly what to do. They dont

Leeah · 21/03/2020 23:32

I don’t think you have to be a scientist to know you can have this virus for 5 days before showing symptoms therefore exposing it to others unknowingly.

We see on the news how many deaths have occurred why would we not take his advice seriously?

I’m not trying to be argumentative so please forgive me if I’m coming across that way Flowers

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 23:40

Do you understand why you have to self isolate from your family if you have symptoms even though they will already have been exposed? I didn't till local news explained simply and clearly about viral load and how as a result your family members could become much much more ill than you.
Doing this is hard. I am in 1 room alone. People will not do it if they do not know why.

Alsohuman · 21/03/2020 23:43

why would we not take his advice seriously?

Because it’s as clear as mud and it keeps changing. He should be telling us, not advising.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 21/03/2020 23:48

alloutoffucks

I’ll google that...we were just talking about that And i asked why it was necessary, hopefully now I’ll be better informed

MarshaBradyo · 21/03/2020 23:51

All I didn’t know that re staying apart at home. Initially they did stress it but seems to have fallen by wayside.

Rishi was much better we can all agree on that I think.

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 23:53

If you have CV you shed virus - maybe not exact right words. The more exposure people get, the iller they can become. So if you are ill family members are exposed before you show symptoms. If you expose them once you have symptoms they get a lot of exposure. Can make them very ill. Staying away from them in another room helps protect them. They may get CV, but will not be as ill.

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 23:54

Good advice saves lives.

MarshaBradyo · 21/03/2020 23:55

That’s really good to know thanks

MarshaBradyo · 21/03/2020 23:55

Btw are you ill? Hope you are ok

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 00:08

Yes, thanks.

TeaAndDarkToast · 22/03/2020 00:23

He does half a job which is worse than nothing. It is dangerous.
He should have locked this down 2 weeks ago.

He should have told businesses to close instead of advising from the start so that they could claim on insurance. Unless he wanted a serious Depression.

He should have told renters that there would be a ban on eviction for the next three months in the same announcement he gave mortgage holders a holiday.

He should have rationed the food from supermarkets.

It's the drip drab effect. He's not taking it seriosuly so he public don't.

MarshaBradyo · 22/03/2020 00:25

There are glaring mistakes. Constantly using the word advice doesn’t help.

Although partial lock down is like a drug for British people, maybe no matter what people would go nuts with pub then outdoor socialising.

Redbonnie · 22/03/2020 00:56

I had no idea about viral load until reading this. His “ hee hawing” will be costing lives. His response to the Mother’s Day question was appalling. Keep him away from the press conferences. I wouldn’t be surprised if he cocks up with another scandal anyway.

BiarritzCrackers · 22/03/2020 01:08

The viral load thing has really not been explained properly at all by the UK. I've saw that a few days ago on a WHO press conference, but despite having rolling news on in the background pretty much all the time, I don't think I've heard it repeated since. It is really important, but I guess they might be concerned about information overload? Too many processes to consider, just making people switch off and reject adhering to the whole thing.

PotholeParadise · 22/03/2020 01:18

That's a good point. It hasn't occurred to me that advice hasn't been explaining the concept of viral load, but of course it should be.

StormzyinaTCup · 22/03/2020 01:31

I was aware of viral load and had heard it spoken about at the beginning of the outbreak in the uk. Anyone with symptoms who remains at home it is recommended they be isolated from family members in a separate room and ideally have access to a second bathroom solely for their own use. For a lot of people that’s just not possible. How are you going to manage that fear?

However, what you can do is tell people not to go to pubs and bars and expect them to do just that. Police themselves in public and have a sense of social responsibility. Seems too much to ask of some.

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 01:43

Not everyone has more than 1 bathroom. But the advice is to clean it every day if that is the case. If you don't explain why people need to do something difficult, then they won't. But if they have say a vulnerable teenager, then they are far more likely to enforce this if they understand why it matters so much.
My local news did a brilliant item where they broke it down into 4 categories. Those ill, those told by medics to self isolate, those choosing to self isolate and who might choose to do that, and everyone else. And they explained exactly what each group needed to do and why. That is what should be happening at press conferences.

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 01:51

And I know there are some arseholes who will always ignore what they are supposed to do. But I think a lot of people going to pubs just think they will only get a mild illness, what is the big deal. As long as they stay away from very elderly and frail people it is fine.
I know that is not true. But there have been mixed messages.
I still see people on face book bewildered as to why things have been closed when it is just like a mild flu. What is the big deal? And surely we all have to get it anyway and build up herd imunity?
Johnson has not even come out and said that herd immunity as a theory was wrong. He just hopes we all forget about it.

I suspect in the future communication strategy courses will be looking at our government as an example of how not to communicate.

PotholeParadise · 22/03/2020 01:59

Not everyone has more than 1 bathroom. But the advice is to clean it every day if that is the case. If you don't explain why people need to do something difficult, then they won't. But if they have say a vulnerable teenager, then they are far more likely to enforce this if they understand why it matters so much.

Yes. Also, understanding what they're aiming for, is always helpful. In this case, a simple reduction of the exposure. People aren't stupid. They know that it's incredibly hard to 100% stop germs being passed on within the family. But if you tell them that there will be a payoff to all the cleaning and it won't have been pointless even if the bug gets passed on anyway, then they will.

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