Worries about the Coronavirus 29

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@Alwayscheerful

I don’t think anyone knows. Opposition figures have leaked figures far in excess of official reports. Even the WHO is sounding dubious now:

@WHO emergency director for the Middle East said that the number of #COVID19 cases reported by #Iran could represent only about a fifth of the real numbers.@WhoWants2Know

Jeremy Hunt for PM

Anyone else heard amazon are stopping shipping anything unless essential items.

@defthand the chief scientific officer confirmed on TV that a rule of thumb is 1000 current cases per death (remember that some of those current cases will go on to die too, which is why the mortality rate is higher than 1/1000 or 0.1%)

@tangledyarn my sister is a HCP, she symptoms. Rang 111 and told to self isolate, she rang her manager this morning who actually asked her how long she would be self idol for?

She asked her to ring on Friday to indicate how long she will be self isolating for. The manager is either ignoring the guidance or doesn't know what it is. Either scenario is terrifying.

@picklemewalnuts
I don't understand why we are still getting so many negative test responses, when we are now only testing poorly people?
Which leads me to ask what were these poorly people suffering from? There must be quite a few nasty viruses out there apart from CV-19!

Israel is going to use the tracking system that Taiwan used.

You'd think in our modern age, we could pull on this.

I must admit even though this is cock up Central... I'm so glad we can listen to this committee!

Hear mps...

Jeremy hunt for pm.

Or that the test isn’t working

Poor 2yo DD has managed to develop an absolutely constant cough AND chickenpox in the space of 24 hours so she’s miserable and we’re on full lockdown.

Also got an email via uni saying healthcare students have valuable skills and will be made of use of... we’re studying occupational therapy so not sure what we’re supposed to do in the face of a pandemic!!

@Egghead68

Okay, so they’re factoring in case doubling every 5 days then to get a current deaths to cases stat. Very rough, but sounds vaguely right if they’re just talking about symptomatic case numbers. Asymptomatic ratios remain the big unknown without immuneassays.

Self idol. Love it

Sounds much better than self isolating

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@riotlady you can help people work out how to manage themselves on lockdown!

@VivaLeBeaver

No, do you have a source? Big news if true.

So what I'm drawing from this is that, there are two distinct schools of thought.

One is, this will be raging for at least a year probably 18 months. So our measures have been based on this long term view.

Or the second view, taken by countries with swift action, is that is not necessarily true and this could just as easily fizzle out like sars and mers. So take every measures to stop transmission chain. Now.

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I’ve not heard anything re: change of Amazon delivery policy. They have, over the last few days, delivered my non-essential (to the outside world) craft and sensory items (stocking up for when eldest dc’s SN school closes), and I have another delivery scheduled for Friday currently.

Bercows, have you looked at getting a Himylayan Salt Pipe? Good for chesty type stuff apparently. Add a couple of drops of Lugol's iodine and take around 15 breaths (nasal) 3 times a day. Please do double check this but it is supposed to kill all bacteria/viruses before they get a grip.

I just placed an amazon delivery, no problem...well apart from the fact that half the school items I wanted are now out of stock!

@defthand I'm sorry I'm being a bit thick today - could you explain the asymptomatic /symptomatic/deaths China data a bit more? Was it definitely asymptomatic or presymptomatic?

Friend said she saw the amazon thing flash up on the news channel as breaking news then went. Dunno which channel

are we having a meeting today on the news?
I saw something about financial plan

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-amazon-suspends-delivery-shipments-stock-price-a9406951.html?utmmedium=Social&utmm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1584456332

Amazon are prioritising their warehouse stock, so only 'essential items' until April 5th...

@picklemewalnuts that would be a good use of our skills but I suspect we’ll be used as free healthcare assistants tbh. I imagine most community OT will be suspended as “non-essential”

Also spoke to neighbour who said his mate works on an oil rig and normally does 30 on and 30 off. They haven’t been allowed off. The oil rig say they’re a coronavirus free zone and need to maintain that to ensure oil supply. They’ve been told they need to stay on for at least another 30 days and possibly months.

I know someone who works for a pharmaceutical manufacturer. They HAVE to stay open for obvious reasons so they are being extra careful about staff.

I've heard other people talking of separate teams which have to isolate as much as possible work for two weeks then are switching. Not sure what area they work in.

Another person I know works for a large supermarket and is involved with the supply chain side of things. Apparently they knew the panic buying was coming before it started.

Their staff in their main depot have been on their knees trying to restock stores.

Seriously, the supermarket problem has to end- no one is eating twice as much as usual, so people will have to stop buying soon, surely?!!