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Worried about corona virus thread 27

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Michelleoftheresistance · 15/03/2020 10:46

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todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 20:32

Angryrant55

Well, if you put quote marks in, you should name the source.

awesomeaircraft · 15/03/2020 20:33

Yes, sorry, the Guardian. But also published in other publications.

GingerLemonTea · 15/03/2020 20:34

6 cases in a care home in Scotland. Awful.

[[https://news.stv.tv/west-central/six-cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-at-care-home?top ]]

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 20:34

NHS need to be up in arms about this

Maybe unlikely, given they are used to being unappreciated, un-listened to and used as cannon fodder.

Lynamic · 15/03/2020 20:35

That's something that concerns me with asthma. My dc gets bad reaction to colds where their airway gets too inflamed. Inhaflers don't work only prednisolone calms immune response. I can't let them catch anything now.

Kuponut · 15/03/2020 20:35

Our university are now having meetings tomorrow so I suspect a closure u turn is coming

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 20:38

We going to probably see further cases at that home.

If it gets bad i imagine the sick in care homes will be left there and not be admitted to hospital.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 20:40

Darren McCaffrey - 'BREAK: Iran reports biggest single-day jump in fatalities from COVID-19, 113 deaths, bringing the country's total to 724.

AND worryingly “many" of those who have died were otherwise healthy,

55% of fatalities were in their 60s, some 15% were younger than 40.'

SabineSchmetterling · 15/03/2020 20:40

I just read on Twitter that Germany aren’t counting the deaths of people with Coronavirus if they were also suffering from other diseases. Can anyone here she’d any light on whether that’s likely to be true? If it is it explains the near-miraculous lack of fatalities.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 20:43

Probally not but they might not if the person other diseases would have ended their life relatively soon.

SabineSchmetterling · 15/03/2020 20:44

I don’t think it can be true as some of the news reports on confirmed deaths mention other illnesses.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 20:47

Could different states in Germany count differently.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 20:54

Our university are now having meetings tomorrow so I suspect a closure u turn is coming

Can you tell me what Uni that is please? I'm very confused with it all, the Uni I attend has cancelled all face to face, when my DD's once is saying business as usual. They are next to each other so clearly location doesn't come into it.

RedToothBrush · 15/03/2020 20:54

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/03/15/anguished-cry-nhs-front-line-coronavirus-explode-among-medical/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1584298659

The telegraph article posted earlier is awful

As a sample, I offer extracts from an email received on Sunday from consultant cardiologist at a top British hospital, with high-powered credentials, who is working in the front line.

His Whatsapp group of 10 fellow doctors has a Wuhan sense of frustration about it. Things are going horribly wrong. Covid-19 is taking off among NHS staff.

“One of them seems to probably have Covid, as has multiple symptoms. Two of them have personally treated a patient with Covid before the patient was diagnosed, eg with no protective measures in place. It is clear that there are certainly multiple cases amongst staff and patients in every NHS hospital today, and they are actively spreading, with nothing stopping them.

"One of the 10 is in his 50s, and has somewhat restricted lung capacity because of an orthopaedic problem – he spent this weekend making a will and putting his affairs in order. He had realised that with the current NHS leadership, there was basically nothing he could do to avoid catching it in coming days. Crunching the statistics, he realised that several consultants in the hospital will probably die.

“We have received no advice at all to take any measures to reduce spread in the hospital. Where the South Koreans were attending hospital in full hazmat suits, I will be arriving in my suit and tie tomorrow with nothing to prevent me catching it, and working in an operating theatre that a Covid patient was in on Friday, nobody aware that he had it, and the staff members I will be working with, will all have been in contact with that patient.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 20:55

If it gets bad i imagine the sick in care homes will be left there and not be admitted to hospital.

What makes you say this?

Coquohvan · 15/03/2020 21:00

Red. OMG

Youngatheart00 · 15/03/2020 21:01

I agree (sadly) re care homes. I say that as I think they will already be deemed as being in a (health)care setting and therefore not a priority for an acute care bed.

Not saying I agree with the approach but I do understand the forced logic.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 21:03

(health)care setting

Are you talking nursing or residential homes?

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 21:03

Just because the triaging will mean care home patients will not be a priority for ICU and if it gets really bad with 200-500k needing hospital treatment at any time their will be the lowest priority due to them thinking they can get basic care in the home.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 21:04

Nursing first but if it gets worse residential care homes as well.

VivaLeBeaver · 15/03/2020 21:05

Can you tell me what Uni that is please? I'm very confused with it all, the Uni I attend has cancelled all face to face, when my DD's once is saying business as usual. They are next to each other so clearly location doesn't come into it.

I’m assuming that’s Leicester and DMU? I know most dmu students are up in arms and I don’t blame them.

Derbygerbil · 15/03/2020 21:05

What makes you say this?

If it is even a fraction as bad as the 7.9m needing hospitalisation, as quoted in the Guardian today (albeit this is a worst case scenario) there simply won’t be enough space, or even nearly enough space.

OldQueen1969 · 15/03/2020 21:06

I just watched the interview with is it Hancock? on Sky news live again paying closer attention.

Politicians are really weaselly aren't they?

The herd immunity thing was posited again as not their policy but scientific fact which alot of scientific experts have questioned with some alarm and scepticism.

The sudden call for ventilator production at any cost struck me as a bit like when someone puts a desperate shout out on FB for something to avert a crisis. And it got me wondering, as he crowed about our fantastic specialist manufacturing capabilities in this country - just how many firms can switch to this sort of production of specialist equipment just like that? We're not really that hot on manufacturing these days are we since many firms find it cheaper to do this stuff abroad - if widgets / components have to come from abroad can it be guaranteed that new travel restrictions won't impact freight as well? It would be really great to see a journalist investigate how feasible it is to magic up this ventilator production within the UK based on contacting likely firms etc - this might prove reassuring and actually confirm that the government's efforts are serious.

As to the dismissive response that scientists up to now have been too busy to publish the findings on which the scientific approach is being based but will do so over the next few days - well, the cynic in me says we'll get what we're given, edited and sanitised in favour of the government's approach.

I just can't get myself past the overall feeling that "There's things going on we don't know" and it'll be quite shocking if we ever do........

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 21:07

Or enough nurses.

todayisnottuesday · 15/03/2020 21:07

I’m assuming that’s Leicester and DMU? I know most dmu students are up in arms and I don’t blame them.

No, Greenwich and Canterbury.

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