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Worried about corona virus thread 27

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Michelleoftheresistance · 15/03/2020 10:46

New Thread.

I will copy over all the links in a min.

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Exochord · 15/03/2020 11:21

A primary school in my region posted a Facebook status saying a child has been diagnosed with coronavirus and the whole family is self isolating. Cue lots of worried parents threatening to keep their children off school and everyone else sharing the status saying Warning: a family in this town has coronavirus, take extra precautions because the virus is obviously circulating.

This morning the school has deleted the post. Whether it was told to do so by the authorities, I don’t know. So people are now going nuts saying why has this been deleted, we have a right to know if it’s in our town, we have a right to know if our children and loved ones are at risk.

RedToothBrush · 15/03/2020 11:21

Always perhaps the cross party talks are happening now, but there was clearly no evidence of that last week when the opposition were laying into Johnson and co.

Its funny cos the opposition have been saying for the last week that the government wasn't going far enough.

The government have been critised and public opinion hasn't supported them, so now this morning there's this emphasis that it's all cross party when the government want to sound like they are doing a bit of a backtrack and doing more (when we've yet to see actual action, just talk of what we'll do in a few days)

The opposition in England have no proper power. In Scotland its limited and Johnson scoffed at the SNPs plans for banning events. In NI its slightly different but even then it ultimately needs government support. Stormont is working with Dublin as they have to cos of the shared border but again unless it has central government support NI can only go so far.

This 'cross party' stuff that's cropped up this morning is a deflection for responsibility taking and blame. It's because it's become glaringly apparent that a lack of trust in Johnson is helping to fuel panic.

Ultimately those it comes back to the difference between what the government are saying and actually doing. The opposition don't even need to turn up in parliament for Johnson to be able to vote through whatever coronavirus legislation he likes as long as his MPs support it.

It's all about PR not power.

RedToothBrush · 15/03/2020 11:24

In terms of government accountability, we've had a letter from scientists asking for transparency over their modeling...

Until we start seeing this kind of political transparency then all this guff over cross party stuff doesn't wash with me.

Horehound · 15/03/2020 11:25

What was the vitamin we should b taking and where was the evidence?

fedup21 · 15/03/2020 11:26

Does Boris care what people think-he can pretty much do what he likes now. He’s not going anywhere for 5 years-we are just sitting ducks (fodder).

Sunshinesky1981 · 15/03/2020 11:26

@Michelleoftheresistance just noticed the link at the start of the previous thread is for 25... should it be 26?

ofwarren · 15/03/2020 11:29

Thanks for the thread @Michelleoftheresistance
Just taking a bit of a brain break today

DICarter1 · 15/03/2020 11:30

I live locally to my parents and saw them on Friday. But I won’t have them see the kids just in case. I also work in a school (thankfully own office and no real contact with the kids). But we’re running a training session later next week for other teachers 40+ expected and I really think it should be cancelled. I really don’t want to go along and assist. I have a cold and a foggy head and am feeling more panicked than I’ve done for a very very long time. Two kids with autism (one who I have to wash their hands as they don’t understand) and youngest also has an autoimmune disease. I’m scared our government aren’t doing enough.

TheGlaikitRambler · 15/03/2020 11:30

Horehound Vitamin D and it was studies linked to by Dr John Campbell in one of his videos.

TheElementsOfMedical · 15/03/2020 11:30

nellodee You should be sharing that WaPo simulation link all over the Coronavirus threads. All those naysayers claiming that if the population can't isolate perfectly because humans are imperfect therefore we might as well do nothing and even actively encourage mass gatherings... 🙄

OldQueen1969 · 15/03/2020 11:31

@RedLentilYellowLentil

Many thanks for sharing that - I much appreciate it.

I really think in that case better information should have been given to my friend. The tone was "it's probably" just a chest infection, self isolate anyway to be sure, take these and come back if you get worse". It wasn't "We can see from your X-ray that it is not CV19 so a test is unnecessary". That's what provoked the flat spin. I truly understand and sympathise with under pressure staff, but clearer information would have prevented a day of alarm. They are still self-isolating and will be seeking further advice about the steroids just to be sure - taking personal responsibilty as much as they can.

ofwarren · 15/03/2020 11:31

@TheCanterburyWhales
Good to see you back Flowers

Justyou · 15/03/2020 11:34

Is it just the elderly who will be on lockdown or is it anyone with health or autoimmune conditions?

RedToothBrush · 15/03/2020 11:35

Does Boris care what people think-he can pretty much do what he likes now. He’s not going anywhere for 5 years-we are just sitting ducks (fodder).

He needs cooperation.

He would have a problem if all the teachers went sick or started to strike at lack of health and safety for example.

There are plenty of other examples. He needs to keep civic order.

If he fails on this, the consequences are pretty huge.

Johnson wants to be pm for as long as possible and Johnson wants an historic legacy for his ego.

So yes it does matter.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 11:36

Already on facebook tensions about migrants getting treatment and issues like that starting to spread. In a few weeks when an 90 year old born in the uk is denied ICU treatment vs a 55 year migrant gets one things might start to get ugly.

Horehound · 15/03/2020 11:37

@TheGlaikitRambler ah thanks I thought I read somewhere maybe about zinc and mercury though?!

Horehound · 15/03/2020 11:39

Oh just googled. The zinc thing was a myth buster proved to be busted.

langdale2016 · 15/03/2020 11:39

Not testing for Covid 19 will ensure the UK numbers remain low, both in terms of deaths and cases. Nice one Boris.

RedLentilYellowLentil · 15/03/2020 11:39

"Ministers are planning to give police in the UK the power to arrest people with coronavirus who are not self-isolating, the health secretary has confirmed."

Just read this on the Guardian live feed, which provided some light relief, since none of us out here in the community are going to be given the opportunity of being tested anyway. Doh.

Or will we just get arrested for coughing and looking a bit sweaty?

fedup21 · 15/03/2020 11:41

He would have a problem if all the teachers went sick or started to strike

I would imagine he’d love that.

He could close the schools and blame the feckless work shy teachers for it instead of himself as they have not cooperated during our hour of need.

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 11:42

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Slurpy · 15/03/2020 11:42

Apologies if this has already been posted, but the British Psychological Society is collating papers from psychologists on coronavirus, with some evaluation of nudge theory and the behavioural science that has been thrown into the spotlight in recent days.
Probably only interesting for psych geeks like me, but thought I'd share: thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-33/april-2020/coronavirus-psychological-perspectives

georgeggg · 15/03/2020 11:43

Thanks for the new thread.

Does anyone know how many new cases Germany had yesterday?

woodencoffeetable · 15/03/2020 11:44

shops this way only accept card payments now to reduce staff handling cash.
not sure what to do in case I'm not able get to the supermarket and have to send dc...

Angryrant55 · 15/03/2020 11:44

#coronavirusuk in public opinion

83% "test all entering UK"
76% cancel big events
67% NHS "can handle it"
63% "ration food"
58% "stop all travel to UK"
52% declare emergency
53% trust Gvt but
47% PM "shd do more"
45% worry about getting it
21% "likely someone I know will die"

The top one shows how ugly nationalism will surge a lot.

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