Worried about coronavirus thread 26

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Here is the new thread

Here is the link to the previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3846851-Worried-about-coronavirus-thread-25

@Lumene

Its a theoretical immunity. In fact no one knows if it occurs or if it will help in this case. The UK government have adopted it to justify doing as little as possible.

I've posted on the old thread too. I'm upset reading threads of people who live day to day with food yet have children and so have no buffer. People who can't afford to do a decent sized shop online that will last them a couple of weeks. We should be like Germany who advise everyone to have 10 days worth of supplies in in case of whatever. I'll be raising my children to do this once they leave home.
I'm going to make bread and soup today. Comfort cooking and baking. And eating!

Are we expecting an update from BJ at any point this weekend?

@Lumene Dominic Cummings and his team of “superforecasters” have no doubt already pinpointed when that moment will occur.

I suspect that Cummings is a Darwinist.

I wonder if the mass gathering figure would be whatever number of people anticipated means the organisers have to have St. John’s ambulance in attendance (or whatever the set up is for these things) so they can keep them for higher importance stuff.

Cummings is good at messages but not all leading of it, ie the science.

My youngest (3) has been out of sorts with a bit of a cough and a gunky eye these last few days. Bit of a temperature for him (he generally runs low like the rest of the family) but not above 37.8 (was 37.6 when he normally runs as 36.3)
I wasn't worried until I heard that COVID19 can cause viral conjunctivitis!
So does this mean I have to isolate with him? Given I bed share etc. I'm a teacher....

Oh and you can't use the online NHS 111 thing for under 5s

Frankly if the so-called science of superforecasting was that good surely they would have forecast the virus and headed it off at the pass.

Is there any specific gathering number that requires ambulances? If a school has 1200 pupils and 350 staff then even if they all gather in the hall for assembly there is no ambulance requirement, is there?

#whynotme40
It's not a cough or a high temperature so I guess not.
This new guideline is so confusing though.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Live spreadsheet with world data.

What happens after you recover from coronavirus? t.co/3MxwGEHLZj
The independent

From the HSE website:

First aid, medical assistance and ambulances

As well as workers, HSE strongly recommends that you include the visiting public in your first-aid, medical and ambulance needs assessment. Make sure you will have enough medical assistance and ambulances onsite and liaise with your local NHS and ambulance service so they can balance your needs against their local capacity.

Except for small, low-risk events where ambulances may not be required, and at events where they are not onsite, plans should be drawn up in conjunction with the local NHS ambulance service to clarify how patients will be taken to hospital.

It seems that the need for ambulances (or not) is a matter for the event organiser having performed a risk assessment.

🇳🇴 Norway advises citizens against all foreign travel amid pandemic t.co/VARBq7F4fT
The independent

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson told to ‘get off your backside’ as Labour launches blistering attack over UK response to outbreak | The Independent t.co/pFcxcVsemX
The independent

I can't afford or have the space to do a 2 week food shop and I have two under 6. It's terrifying.

Does anyone know how Iran are doing?

WHO calls out the UK for scaling back coronavirus testing and issues stark warning to governments #COVID19 t.co/Z6TeWJ2enI
Daily Mail

@VivaLeBeaver this is a paste of the current uni list. In our local area there's a distinct picture of the ex polys being stubborn and also quite confrontational with concerned students

Universities stopping face-to-face teaching so far include:

• Durham
• MMU
• Lancaster
• Southampton
• Harper Adams (anecdotal)
• Leicester
• UCL (anecdotal)
• LSE
• KCL
• Birkbeck
• Nottingham
• Glasgow
• Essex
• Loughborough
• Liverpool (anecdotal)
• Westminster
• Sheffield
• Bristol (anecdotal)
• Northumbria
• Portsmouth
• (Potentially) Uni of Birmingham
• Edinburgh
• Queen Mary
• Aberdeen

(Possibly) Cambridge soon

Sunderland have recalled some placement students.

(Correct as of 21:02, 13th March)

Middle of this week our staff were saying they saw no issue with us being on placements in care homes. Over night it seems most of the homes have taken action themselves and stopped visitors but none of us can get responses from the uni staff about it all (as usual)

Social media team reinforcing they expect us all in on Monday as normal and I'm not putting family members at risk who have health conditions. I'm expecting an attendance warning by the end of the week!

Sunderland uni sent us a business as usual email yesterday to be reviewed on Tuesday evening. After my three hour seminar on Tuesday. People on my course who have health issues are not attending, including those who have children with health issues

The RVC haven't closed but they have suggested students stay away and have put plans in place to teach remotely. At least that was the gist of Ds1 email the other day.

Spain have turned around a lot of UK planes heading towards them

BU have said business as usual but they are reviewing day to day. They have lots of alternative scenarios in place and it is going to correspond with PHE advice as to which way it goes. They did mention finishing for Easter break early but that doesn't help the 2k staff!

Anyone else starting to feel they almost want to catch it now? Get it over and done with to stop the anxiety and fear and then move on, help others etc? Having a bad time so far today but grateful for everyone on here for their support. Thank you guys x

Workers across the country say they have been laid off
DH’s employer has sacked 10 people in sales and warehouse because product isn’t coming in from Europe and product isn’t going out because buyers aren’t buying.

Universities stopping face-to-face teaching so far
My friend works for Newcastle uni, he says a number of things are being cancelled and he’s expecting closures next week.