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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 18

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usernameishistory · 09/03/2020 11:35

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

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Coquohvan · 09/03/2020 20:29

Our Venice trip with EJ they are still saying it’s on as airport open. FCO only essential travel. Hotel refunded in full. Not airline at the moment.
Madness come to mind.

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 09/03/2020 20:30

I found a paper on mass gatherings and flu looking at several studies.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/316200/MasssGatheringsevidenceeReview.pdf

namechangemania · 09/03/2020 20:31

I’m full of cold at the moment and my colleagues are looking at me like Hmm

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 09/03/2020 20:31

Here's the conclusion
In terms of policy implications, it is clear that mass gatherings should not be considered as a homogenous group of events; the adoption of a common terminology for describing mass gatherings and the development of a hierarchy based on factors such as event size, duration, and crowd density may be helpful towards risk assessment and policy decision making. The inclusion of updated evidence to support a new type of setting, ships strengthens this argument that certain type of settings should be more carefully analysed. While there is little, if any direct evidence, to support banning mass gatherings, voluntary rather than legislated restrictions may, if implemented as part of a package of other public health measures, be a pragmatic and beneficial approach should the severity of a future pandemic warrant extraordinary measures. In addition, the practical implications of potential policies aimed at mass gathering restrictions should be carefully assessed, including economic and logistical ramifications.

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 09/03/2020 20:32

Posters throwing the word 'nonsense' around as if they're the foremost authority really ought to consider what pompous dicks they sound. @ShanghaiDiva, I've appreciated your insights, albeit under a different username, since the first thread.

Newjez · 09/03/2020 20:32

I think I'm going to have to bunker down soon. I think maybe after Easter. I will need to talk to the DWP. As my work coach has already given me one stinking cold, I'm assuming they won't mind with my medical history. I've been applying for jobs, but I might be happy to sit out the next few months. I have a place to stay close to home away from the kids.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 09/03/2020 20:33

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Quartz2208 · 09/03/2020 20:33

@Thetigeronthewobbelboard yes completely agree or the Merton case as well as its entirely logical they could live there

When we lived in Epsom DH needed an ambulance and they took him to St Helier in case he needed to be operated on. Epsom is more and more a hub

Facingtheunkown · 09/03/2020 20:34

Mange how does the mass gathering relate to schools?

Ciwirocks · 09/03/2020 20:34

heyduggee I have similar concerns. I think if I looked after a patient with the correct HCID gear on I would be ok with going home and living a normal life at home but if I was accidentally exposed I would isolate myself away from the family in the same house if not symptomatic. If I then developed symptoms I would ask DH to take the kids and stay with his mum for 2 weeks. The thought of it in reality is really worrying me. I don’t want to be away from my kids for that long, I have never been away from them for more than one night. It would be very distressing for all of us. I am dreading the next couple of months.

frumpety · 09/03/2020 20:37

Went to the supermarket today and one thing that really struck me was that the toilet roll shelves were nearly empty , but next to them the tissue shelves were full. Run that official advice about coughing and sneezing past me again Hmm

Inmyownlittlecorner · 09/03/2020 20:38

I still don’t really understand the new instructions about isolating. I live in central London & use the tube or overground every day.
Ive had an on/off runny nose for a couple of days & evening I’ve developed a bit of a cough, but no fever/temperature etc & I feel absolutely fine. Do I need to stay away from work?
I live in a small flat with 2DCs & DH works in essential services, so isolating will pretty much involve all 4 of us.
I had proper flu in December & was totally laid up with that. It took about 6 weeks to start to feel normal but no one else got it. I think it was because I was the only one who didn’t have a flu jab.

HeresMe · 09/03/2020 20:38

*Its way down on my list too. Havent had painted nails since 2004

I was just making a point about how a small part of the economy in Italy is trying to cope hmm*

If it's anything like he UK nails businesses the economy won't suffer, since it's pretty much modern slavery, I don't frequent these places but they are all same staffed by East Asians and there is usually a man a front who just sits there.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 09/03/2020 20:39

Oh please.

Fawning over a brutal regime that tried to hide the virus and delayed the measures to contain it and did nothing to stop wild animal trade and cruelty is actually worse than nonsense.

VeniVediViciTwice · 09/03/2020 20:39

@Carrie7469 Thanks for head up about sanitizer, they are limiting to 1 per person now.

fedup21 · 09/03/2020 20:40

Ive had an on/off runny nose for a couple of days & evening I’ve developed a bit of a cough, but no fever/temperature etc & I feel absolutely fine. Do I need to stay away from work?

Nope. Not till 10-14 days time.

JamesBlonde1 · 09/03/2020 20:40

Those who have been told to work from home. How long will that last for?

And what about going shopping, taking kids to activities, kids coming home from school and spreading it. Or your DH coming home from work and spreading it.

Does this only work if you're single and childless and won't see your friends for weeks?

ifonly4 · 09/03/2020 20:40

Ledkr they're already in the area. Clearly in Cheltenham High Street on Saturday. Went out for a drink on Sunday further out and were surrounded by two Irish families and one German. Racecourse bring staff in from other areas to help get ready, which has been going on for a few weeks. I reckon half the damage has already been done.

FourTeaFallOut · 09/03/2020 20:40

Went to the supermarket today and one thing that really struck me was that the toilet roll shelves were nearly empty , but next to them the tissue shelves were full. Run that official advice about coughing and sneezing past me again

Maybe they will all blow their noses on toilet paper? In which case I think the next panic buy purchase might be vaseline.

Thetigeronthewobbelboard · 09/03/2020 20:41

quartz Both my grandparents needed an ambulance quite a bit in the last 5-10 years’ of their lives and providing she was conscious my Gran would always be saying ‘don’t let them take me to St Helier. It’s a nightmare for parking’. She was really cross the one time they did take her there. She was quite a character.

HeIenaDove · 09/03/2020 20:42

Ah i see what you mean Never been to one.

Inmyownlittlecorner · 09/03/2020 20:42

Thanks @fedup21. DH has a very specialist Public sector role & would, I suspect have to stay at work if it looked like any of us were going to get it.

mylittlewoodenword · 09/03/2020 20:43

All Italy on lock down.

Facingtheunkown · 09/03/2020 20:43

All Italy now in quarantine.

So... How does that affect future UK school trips there?.

I guess we are still allowed to flit in and out?.
Is this what the UK wants?

Total bloody shut down?

BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 09/03/2020 20:44

No we aren't.