worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 15

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

Why on earth are people still getting on cruise ships 🤦‍♀️

That new cases per 1 million of population column on the WHO website seems to suggest we are doing very well compared to other European countries. I thought we had so many fewer cases than Spain, France and Germany because I thought their populations must be huge compared to ours. But it seems not.

PM has visited a lab in Bedfordshire where British scientists are using expertise and experience from previous epidemics to create a quicker and cheaper way to diagnose coronavirus

Sounds unhelpful to their work.
Could he not just hide in a fridge, out of the way?

Oh, and we've picked up 3 more cases it seems - from Scotland, Wales or N.I, I assume.

"Why anyone would now willingly get on board a floating virus factory is beyond me."

Exactly 🤯

imo, time for many governments to just ban them from docking
This would force the cruise companies to stop

They cause so much upheaval in whatever country they end up in with a possible boatload of infected people

US CoronaVirus - 21 deaths, 406 cases in 28 states

102: WA, 18 dead
92: CA, 1 dead
76: NY
9: FL, 2 dead
9: TX
8: CO
8: MA
7: OR
6: GA
6: IL
5: AZ
4: NJ
3: MD
3: RI
2: NC
2: NH
2: NV
2: PA
2: SC
1: HI
1: IN
1: KY
1: MN
1: NE
1: OK
1: TN
1: UT
1: WI

No information was required when I flew in to uk three weeks ago. Ironically, before I left China I had to fill out a form regarding where I had been in the previous two weeks.
We still have to fill out information on a weekly basis for the Chinese authorities regarding movement, current location and health. This is collected by dd’s school and dh’s company.

manic The progress of transmission would be delayed in an island compared to countries on the continent,
with so many more ways of ingress from all directions

The question is whether UK island status will be significant protection, or just a few weeks delay before we copy the pattern of other countries of similar size.
imo, it could be a significant help

Shanghai 21.38

How can oz ensure those asked to self isolate would be though?

Why have we been so very lax?

Did someone ask for pneumonia rates earlier? Compared to last year.

Did anyone respond?

What markers can we look at... Is there anything that an give us a true idea of what's going on out there.

We have instance of MK man.

I posted the same the other day but will post again. Friend travelled around Thailand, japan etc.... for over 2 months. Flew back this week to London. London asked nothing at all. No temps taken. She said she couldn't believe how relaxed they were.

tbh I wonder how germany checks travel via train.
I have relatives who are visiting italy right now. they are in the south now but plan to make their way to northern germany by train, visiting various cities on stopovers on the way there...

Huggles is wish people like that contacted the papers!

@GPwife2411, I was surprised today to read the U.K. government saying England was still in containment phase as I though some of the new diagnoses yesterday were said to be untraceable. By that I mean contact tracing isn’t possible for some of these individuals so they’ve caught the virus ‘in the community’. I’m in Scotland where we are still in containment - but the FM has said we’re to expect to move to the next phase soon - the delay phase. It’s interesting that your DH reckons the virus is no longer contained in England.

Why on earth are people still getting on cruise ships?

Because ‘it’s only the flu’!

I follow a couple of cruise forums and people are still saying that they’re pretty safe!

We cruise a lot, we have one booked for August, but I don’t intend going.

As the progress of the disease in the UK is some weeks behind Germany,
maybe similar checks at airports and ports will be brought in at some point.

Germany does rather like asking people to fill in forms with long complicated names, so it probably came more naturally

Those with elderly relatives please BEG them to stay safe, to keep away from crowds, busy environments, planes, anything with people, for a good while, until this first wave passes and we have a hold on the situation

Perhaps they can be left to make their own decisions. A friend of my mother's who is 97 nearly 98, said she'll carry on going out and if she gets it she gets it. She'd rather die now than end up in a home.

Germany hasn't closed schools yet has it (I mean in general, as opposed to where cases have been found).

Big choc I'm flummoxed as to why we have to wait to do anything.

Several of my friends returned to Australia and there were no checks re self isolation so I assume it was on a trust basis. They were given guidelines at the airport re wearing masks at home and going into the garden and wearing a mask was also acceptable.
Re flights from China. only Australian citizens and permanent residents were allowed to enter Australia after 1st Feb so people self isolating should have been at home and checks would have been possible.

"I wonder how Germany checks travel via train."

Probably sets up exit barriers on the platform, before people can get into the rest of the station.

In this emergency, as is allowed for public health reasons,
I gather Schengen has in effect been suspended, so countries can make checks at their borders if they deem it necessary.

Waiting seems pointless and collecting data at the airport would surely make it easier to trace contacts.

Cologne, I don't blame her.
At that stage in life I wouldn't want to be cowering in a room waiting!

We still have to fill out information on a weekly basis for the Chinese authorities regarding movement, current location and health. This is collected by dd’s school and dh’s company.

I thought you were in the UK? Does your DD go to school in China?

Amongst the advise on how to prevent the virus from spreading is not touching your face.

Now I am conscious about it I just never realised how much I touched my face. Like ALL the time

When we had avian flu in China, my mum was staying with me. The airport authorities phoned me to check she was okay as a person seated near her on the plane had fallen ill so collecting entry data is useful.