Coronavirus thread 13

[KenAdams]

Previous thread here.

We are using Worldometer, BDO and Dr John Campbell videos as part of the discussions.

Not an awful lot to be honest... but I’ve always been the type of person that does well with more information rather than less. It stops my anxiety from running rampant

Am I correct in remembering that the numbers you hear at 2pm are the number of cases recorded by 9am that morning?

So if they have had these figures since then why the holdup? They should have finished that cuppa by now...

"2m ago
15:20
Birmingham City Council has confirmed its first case of the coronavirus

Bham City Council
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@BhamCityCouncil
The first #Coronavirus case in Birmingham has been confirmed. The individual tested positive for COVID-19 and is receiving treatment. The Council and our NHS partners are fully prepared to manage the virus as well as help reduce the risk of further cases socsi.in/Igq8V

The Department of Health will shortly be providing its daily update on the total number of UK cases." source

They need to get the message of the seriousness of the situation across more simply. There are still plenty who don't get it. Some because of poor understanding or education, some are just born optimists-remember Thomas from the Apprentice anyone?

How about a story type graphic cartoony thing with a typical street of say Corona-tion St (sorry-I'll get my coat) with 200 people mixed ages and health living there. Then a breakdown of 160 people catching it, 30 something needing hospital care, however many needing ventilation and however many dying, Also other people living there who can't have their planned operations, have normal hospital appointments, be looked after by carers, children whose parents are trying to work in hospitals with no childcare or schools and so on...

Then a bit about preventative measures and the effect on numbers and time frames, showing better outcomes.

Then everyone would understand.

I think they don't do this because they know it would be too graphic.

@unluckyagain its called being informed and then taking whatever measures I deem appropriate to protect myself and my family. It is not obsessing over figures, rather the fact, our Government is not being transparent with information.

I am going to write a 'where to find everything if Mum gets corona virus' list whilst waiting for update.

I'm not trying to be ghoulish but I think the communication could be better.

@frumpety can you share it with me when youve done it so i know what to do lol

I wonder if any of the loo roll hoarders are buying Bronco? Do they even still do it?

(for the younger MNers, it's shiny stuff that is completely useless in terms of absorbency)

@cologne4711 you mean school toilet roll AKA tracing paper? lol

Mum said there was something on the news about it not being airborne. She only listens/wAtches the main tv or news and she can't remember who said it. Incorrect though u less ive missed something.

The most unabsorbent substance known to man.

@unluckyagain - what might change is the procedures put in place by the government. That's why we're nervous about the potential figure today.

Long time lurker, first post.
For those of you considering/actively self isolating, what will you do about family or friends (who are not taking any precautions themselves) wanting to come see you/you go see them?

I'm currently 19 weeks pregnant, have a toddler and three other boys at school (one of whom had pneumonia as a baby, so not sure whether he is still classed as at higher risk?) and am quite honestly freaking out about this whole thing, and have been for a while!
I'm all for withdrawing the boys from school now and home educating (SAHM so no worries about childcare) to try and reduce our overall household risk of catching this horrible thing. My husband thinks I'm absolutely psycho and overreacting, but he's taken the approach of burying his head in the sand so far. He has agreed we will probably be forced into withdrawing them from school at some point, although last night he said once we had 10,000 cases in the UK...which in my mind is waaaayyyyy too late! He owns his own business (office based) which employs another 4 people, so his exposure from work is hopefully minimum, and he has the option of WFH if things get too bad (again in my mind, he should be proactive now).

But what about visitors? I'm thinking OH family will be particularly awkward about still wanting to visit the children or having them for sleepovers etc. whereas my family are more likely to be on board with my stance of protecting the children and my pregnant self (I'm particularly worried that there aren't many studies so far on the effects the virus has on pregnant women). The inlaws both work in schools, so it seems very counterproductive to take the boys out of school to mitigate their risk of infection if they're still then mixing with others who aren't taking precautions themselves and coming home from infection breeding grounds. They also travel during every half term to their holiday villa in spain, so exposing themselves to possible infection whilst away and on flights.

Unfortunately, I can't see my OH backing me up on not seeing any of them until the worst bit of this is over so what are others planning to do? I feel very alone and vulnerable at the moment.

@pussycatinboots the person who publishes the figures has just ran to Tesco for some digestives

twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1235584826448769026

some of the replies are eyeopening - one asked if the delay was linked to what time the stock market closed?

WHO advice to the public

@unluckyagain I think you're on the wrong thread tbh

@Bercows I believe transmission is via saliva?

"How COVID-19 Spreads
Person-to-person spread
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs." source

@KenAdams Thanks for all the hard work. Universities definitely wont delay entry if exams can't be taken. If necessary They will just have to give places based on projected grades, teacher references (which are very important) and personal statements, all of which can be done online. Offers have already been made and obviously there will be some issues if too many places have been offered etc but they won't delay entry. It would be an economic disaster for them.

From the dribs and drabs released (Wigan/Birmingham) online so far today, it only seems to be a few cases today-why the delay?

Or is that naive?

Interestingly it’s quoted as the Wigan ones ‘are not related’

Source Wigan Council

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wigantoday.net/news/coronavirus-two-cases-confirmed-wigan-2078912%3famp

@Faybian
Are you an admissions officer at a university?

The delay could be good all kinds of reasons - either because of a big jump in numbers or because Sandra doesn't work Thursdays and no one else has the password. Given how inept this government is anything is possible.