Worried about coronavirus part 10

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Previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3836973-To-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-9

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

Graveshift, that is really nasty and horrible

According to this a newborn did die sad why does it say no fatalities for 0-10 sad im pregnant and even more terrified now

Please try not to panic. That isn't a very well written article and doesn't give information on the gestation of that pregnancy or any health conditions that the mother may have had. That baby may well have died from other complications, perhaps that is why we are being told no under 10's have died. Please try to not worry, research so far is indicating that pregnant women and babies are not in a high risk group, unlike with flu. I read something last night on the CDC that said Covid has not been found in breastmilk of affected mothers, however the milk does contain Covid antibodies so if you are very concerned, you may gain some reassurance from knowing that breastfeeding your baby is likely to offer him or her some protection. Congratulations on your pregnancy

I know.

im really scared

My son has just called to say he's been told by his tutor that his university will close in a few weeks and that their work will be adapted so that they can work from home

www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020

is good reading

I posted at same time as baby comment

@pedanticstyleguide What's your evidence that there's more widespread community transmission in London than in Italy? Because essentially that is what you're saying, and that is fearmongering.

We are testing widely in the UK, and there is a pilot of clinics testing all people with flu like symptoms- they have picked up I believe 2 cases so far. If the illness was really widespread in the UK already they would have caught more cases.

So why is the government saying its 1% of people who will die of covid19.

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.

Who quite clearly says differently.

I don't think any of the sentinel screening results are back yet. They'd have had to identify surgeries, send out the kits, train the staff, start testing, and then wait 48 odd hours for results, which would have to be in by 9am to appear that day. They only started at the back end of last week so we won't see anything from them until Thursday/Friday at the earliest

Littleboyjuly2020 do you mind saying what university that is?

Channel 4 news are going to do a segment on low paid workers.

@justchecking1 if you mean the 100 clinics pilot program, wasn't the Essex case caught via this program? Or are you talking about the home testing program?

My aunt works in a care home and today emailed the management to ask what steps will be taken etc etc and the reply was basically our residents are okay ... I mean it boggles the mind. No new measures in place -nothing

@Jrobhatch29 The article says none of the neonates tested positive for the virus so they wouldn’t be counted in the statistics. The baby who passed away was born prematurely, so it’s not clear what coronavirus contributed to the death. I think listening to the WHO analysis of this is important and should be calming for you.

We don’t know at all whether there is widespread community transmission in London any more than Manchester or Bristol etc.

We do know that huge numbers of cases went unchecked in Italy for quite some time.

We can only hope (and the evidence so far supports this) that for now we don’t have an Italy situation on our hands. The next week will be crucial as to how the numbers start to
increase and whether we switch from the current containment policy

Can we assume new cases in the UK are being drip-fed given it seems to take 3/4 days between test and confirmation?

@LittleBoyJuly2020 can i ask which uni this is at? I have heard unofficially that this is going to be the case at my uni but nothing official yet. I highly suspect it will happen.

Can someone look at this medical paper that someone is referring to on twitter. www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
They are saying it shows that younger people do show severe symptoms sometimes.

I am terrible at working out things like this

I think the global death rate includes places where the infrastructure is such that it is higher. Given we are assumed to be very prepared and developed I assume we are thinking it will be different here

www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-really-have-coronavirus/607348/

Interesting article from the Atlantic pointing out that America has only tested about 500 people in total thus they have only diagnosed 43 cases. Meanwhile South Korea is testing about 10k people per day.

My university course only teaches two out of the three terms so we stop at Easter anyway and only have to be in for a couple of exam sessions. With the strikes anyway - we're hardly getting taught as it is!

@Delatron Totally agree!

@oneteen To some extent, yes. If people who came back from Italy at the end of half term are stating to show symptoms, there's probably a 2-4 day lag between cases being confirmed. If a case is suspected obviously people are told to self isolate, but I believe contact tracing doesn't happen until a case is confirmed.

*BREAKING: A 7th person with coronavirus has died in the Seattle area. This time, the infection wasn’t identified until well after the person's death.

The death was 6 days ago at Harborview Medical Center.*

Source: twitter.com/ByMikeBaker

Honestly, if anywhere in the world should be criticised for their handling of this, IMO it's the US.

I think the scale goes mild severe critical death. So severe are the ones who need hospital treatment but with treatment survive. Critical is where if you reach is there is a 50/50 chance of death (I need to find where I read this).

Going off to see if I can

Wasn't it the routine testing at the sample of GPs that identified the case in Surry where the person has no known contact or travel history? Otherwise how else would they have been detected, seeing as they're not testing people unless they have had contact with a known case or been to a high risk country?