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Worried about coronavirus part 10

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GPwife2411 · 02/03/2020 19:45

Previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3836973-To-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-9

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

It's not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

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MissPoldark · 03/03/2020 16:56

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MissPoldark · 03/03/2020 16:56

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ofwarren · 03/03/2020 16:57

Ah, they just listed the counties on an infographic on the department of health Twitter page.
twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1234867770501877761?s=09

IveGotBillsTheyreMultiplying · 03/03/2020 16:57

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I agree. I feel better having watched it. It comes across as very transparent, and the info is coming direct from the people with the scientific or epidemiological background, rather a mangled version from a politician to a journalist.

If they don't know the answer they say that. Which I find refreshing and reassuring.

The cooperation between countries sounds good. They are helping Iran and the Chinese experience is helpful.

They say some Chinese provinces have gone from a few cases, to cluster, to full on overload, then back to single traceable cases.

They said the different stages are not progressive, you can be mitigating, researching and containing all at the same time.

He emphasized that the outbreak in each country is different and so measures will need to be tailored to the situation. They are saying that social distancing is not needed when community transmission is not established.

He said that the social distancing will defend on acceptance in the country and that will vary according to local factors.

There are issues with PPE which they are addressing, and with drugs.

The serological studies are being done in 25 countries, data to be shared to inform on infection rates and milder cases.

Def worth a watch.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/03/2020 16:59

France is giving 20 day’s statutory pay if a person has to self isolate,
(following official criteria and with a cover note from the regional health authority)

DePiffle is giving the UK 2 rounds of Happy Birthday and the tender mercies of the DWP & UC

BigChocFrenzy · 03/03/2020 17:00

Germany has 6 weeks on full pay for sickness as standard anyway

Justaboy · 03/03/2020 17:01

the Datchet case Serious that as its near Winsor and one hopes that Mrs Maj and her hubby are in an isolation pod somewhere it wouldnt do have her and him bought low!

So no more handshakes for a while!

Just how are the Masons going to get on?..

OptimisticSix · 03/03/2020 17:01

Oh well I may have just alienated my best friend by pulling out of our trip abroad this weekend. Its to a country which has very few cases but I just don't want to go through airports uneccessarily at the moment, especially as I have one asthmatic child and a DH with chest issues... Hoping you'll all agree with me because I feel awful for cancelling - I did warn her last week I was thinking about it...

Reallybadidea · 03/03/2020 17:03

They are saying that social distancing is not needed when community transmission is not established.

Yes, this is a very important point. Also that people will only tolerate this for so long and it is therefore important to only use these measures when they will be effective.

YoursTunbridgeWells · 03/03/2020 17:06

@Reallybadidea Yes. If we shut the schools now they will have to be closed for possibly 6 months - peak in June allowing 3 months to calm back down. Do people really want to start that now?
I am sure some do but measures will not be effective when there is mass unrest because people won't follow them

AvocadoOwl · 03/03/2020 17:06

I have come around to the idea that we shouldn't be battening down the hatches just yet.

I think a lot of people will choose to stay away from large events etc anyway. I don't think Crufts will be seeing record breaking visitor numbers for example.

SistemaAddict · 03/03/2020 17:06

I've recently gone on to UC. It takes 5 weeks to process the claim and you have to attend the job centre with ID after doing the online form. You can't do it the same day. Apart from the 5 week wait how are they going to get around the ID issue? All very ill-thought out as expected from BlunderingJackass.

plarkin · 03/03/2020 17:06

We're apparently the fifth largest economy in the world? Can't we afford to set-up a crisis loan or grant to those on zero hours or self-employed who need to self-isolate?

Without wanting to politicise this, there are already people dying because of the policies of the conservatives over the last 10 years, families struggling or not being able to feed themselves/their children, people having to rely on the generosity of the public for food bank donations. I really don't think this government care less about those struggling to get by as it is. I think as soon as they perceive a risk to 'their own' then they may act.

LarkDescending · 03/03/2020 17:07

Justaboy Her Maj has been up and about doing investitures - albeit with white gloves on to insulate her from all the handshakes.

Separately, I wonder whether the Bond franchise are regretting the choice of title for the new 007 film, No Time To Die?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51720354

georgeggg · 03/03/2020 17:07

@peridito it's on the twitter page of "department of health and social care uk.

ofwarren · 03/03/2020 17:08

Italy reports 466 new cases of coronavirus and 27 new deaths, raising total to 2,502 cases and 79 dead

Cheeseismylife · 03/03/2020 17:15

Not looking great in Italy Sad

NcFortuna · 03/03/2020 17:16

The confirmed Coronavirus case announced in Kent today by PHE is a mistake. There is currently only one confirmed case in the county.

www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/fiasco-over-new-coronavirus-mistake-223089/

ThankyouPeter · 03/03/2020 17:18

Whilst it is reassuring that all the new cases are people who have returned from abroad, I can't help but think that is partly because that seems the be the criteria for getting tested. There have been people reporting on here that they have contacted 111 but been told they don't need to be tested unless they have returned from a specific country and are advised to self isolate. I don't know what others think?

LarkDescending · 03/03/2020 17:18

So still 12 new cases today, just none of them are in Kent?

ofwarren · 03/03/2020 17:19

I agree with you @ThankYouPeter

Jrobhatch29 · 03/03/2020 17:20

Why are 229 in italy in intensive care? Sad

IveGotBillsTheyreMultiplying · 03/03/2020 17:20

ThankYouPeter

The serological survey currently underway of patients with respiratory symptoms should help work out if there's community transmission.

Not sure when results will be out on that.

VivaLeBeaver · 03/03/2020 17:20

Wow, Italy’s figures are crazy. And that’s following lockdowns?

IveGotBillsTheyreMultiplying · 03/03/2020 17:21

229 is a lot more ICU beds than we can come up with at short notice I reckon.