To be worried about Coronavirus part 7

[Jenasaurus]

As nearly full on the other one, Ill just leave this here and link to it on the other thread for when its full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3834698-To-be-worried-about-the-Coronavirus-Part-6?pg=10&messages=100

This video from lovely Dr John Campbell, is very informative and in part reassuring he has suggested a lower CFR of 1% based on the figures he is constantly analysing

Here is a link to Worldometer Map for live updates

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

and here is another link for news sources from BNO News.

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

@skyejuly of course they will. However no-one can know how this is going to go.

It's sunny up North! It makes a welcome change.
Dd is off on a residential school trip next week and I'm now worried about all that intermingling with other students and families.

I know it's serious but I've been reading these threads a lot and some of you talk as if it's Ebola.

The article on Iran is interesting because it mentions damage from chemical warfare how much could that massively skew figures

Just been observing these threads I am interested not worried yet concerned yes.
Lots of viruses going around anyway so it's cause for concern even not been abroad most people have been in contact with someone who's been abroad recently or will be at some point .
The talk of closing schools etc mustn't be done lightly but maybe this is a warning I dong know is it official advice or scaremongering?
It's just if schools close people can't work so what happens then ? It's all very well those saying oh I could do with a couple of weeks self isolation watching Netflix but seriously self isolation is meant to be staying in one room meals brought to you only use 1 towel etc . Also what about food drink ? , will there be enough food delivered if people can't get to work to work in shops , deliver food, the suppliers ordering stock , the accounts paying for the stock etc all involve various jobs . We all can't just stay home for weeks this needs careful planning never mind are we getting paid to self isolate?

On the schools issue, I think they should move fairly quickly to allow people to keep their kids at home without consequences. Surely this would relieve the pressure of potentially larger class sizes and also on year groups facing exams this year (assuming there could be a shortage of teachers).

I know it's serious but I've been reading these threads a lot and some of you talk as if it's Ebola.

Well, to be fair, it's a severe flu. And while I'm not afraid of dying from it, I'd really prefer avoiding it. It's a novel virus, which makes it more fascinating, fearsome, interesting. I think it's kind of odd if you're not interested in an entirely new pandemic our bodies have zero immunity to.

It's not just the prospect of self isolation, it's the possibility of a quarantine in the event of a local outbreak. That's the point when the logistics of getting food to your door might be trickier. It's not something that any of us have had to deal with before and we don't know what services would be allowed and how swamped for demand that they would be.

Ghostlycurtains it’s worse than Ebola for the simple reason you didn’t get Ebola on a skiing trip to Italy or as you walked around the Prada shop in Milan or as you had dinner on your cruise as you watched Hong Kong at night.

This thing marks you.

Let’s see how the survivors are doing in a years time after they get reinfected again and again.....

I really need to see the dentist, I have a leaky filling that could easily turn into an infection. Should I see the dentist asap or try and hold off ? I am assuming I should get it done this week, rather than risk an infection when Coronavirus cases have hugely increased?

I hadn't thought about the wider implications of this virus in countries like Iran - I.e the civil unrest turning everything into even more of a shit show.

If lots of people need hospitalisation but there are no beds what do you think might happen here?

Or if people are forced to stay home and look after kids cos schools are closed and large numbers of people lose their jobs as a result?

Or there are food shortages? From supply chain shocks.

Or places where people have no health care but do have guns?

Assuming that civil unrest is something that will be exclusive to 'places like Iran' is a little blinkered. Much if the reason that China's restrictions have been so strict have been, not because of the health risk primarily, but because the state feared civil unrest and dissent.

The risk of coronavirus is not merely about health. It has the potential to topple governments due to poor handling of a crisis.

The economics and politics of it are more important to leaders than the risk to life to the general population.

*This thing marks you.

Let’s see how the survivors are doing in a years time after they get reinfected again and again.....*

I don't understand why you feel it's necessary to be this dramatic at this stage to be honest. Just seems like alarmist pondering based on nothing.

It's the economic impact I'm personally starting to get more concerned about.

I'm worried for my elderly parents obviously. And ds and I have asthma but it's the rest of the sanctions and impact of strategies I'm bothered about.

@SirVixofVixHall I'm taking my DS to the dentist today. Just for a check up but I'm glad it is now and not in a few weeks time. Get it down now especially if you are needing treatment. Who knows what will happen.

It would be very hard to increase class sizes in sen schools, potentially a health and safety issue in some classes.

And some schools would struggle with some pupils behaviour wise.

whettam straight up truth.

Laura Bickers @bbclbickers
In Daegu, 1900 Shincheonji Church members have been tested for coronavirus.

1300 had symptoms & 600 did not.

Among those 1300 with symptoms, 87.5% were confirmed with the virus . [rtb: that's 1137 if you aren't good with %]

BUT out of the 600 WITHOUT symptoms, 70% were confirmed with coronavirus. [or 420]

[that makes 1557 out of the 1900 in total who tested positive]

Yes, I think I will see if I can get it done this week. I was going to travel to Bristol , and see a friend’s excellent dentist, but I think I will have to take my chances with a more local one. My current dentist did this filling really badly, and ignored a hole, so I have lost any trust in him and have been dithering about where to go. Think I just need it done urgently now . 🙁

I'm not worried about the 'getting it again and again'. I'm worried about getting it once, ending up with pneumonia, getting further scarring to my already compromised lungs and spending the rest of my shortened life shuffling around with a little oxygen backpack.

Maybe they should postpone the exams to give students additional study time

Well last year's cohort had the spectre of a no deal Brexit hanging over them until we got the October extension. I wondered if colleges would accept the results of the mocks in that case (although I realise a lot of kids do much better in the real thing - ds did do better or the same in most subjects, but his mock results were ok).

BUT out of the 600 WITHOUT symptoms, 70% were confirmed with coronavirus. [or 420]

That's worrying. Especially as in other circumstances they wouldn't be eligible to for testing, and would be continuing as normal. Going to work, school, on public transport and socialising with others, and spreading the virus without realising.

FourTea I know I shouldn’t but I had to giggle at the shuffling with a little oxygen backpack. It’s so fucked up it’s actually laughable. I keep telling people wait until you start counting up a lung which brings the laughs but there’s a dark truth to it.

FFS god damn bats...or scientists...

@SirVixofVixHall regardless of anything else I’d get your tooth sorted. These things always flair up if left and usually at an annoying time!

*Coughing up a lung