To be worried about Coronavirus part 7

[Jenasaurus]

As nearly full on the other one, Ill just leave this here and link to it on the other thread for when its full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3834698-To-be-worried-about-the-Coronavirus-Part-6?pg=10&messages=100

This video from lovely Dr John Campbell, is very informative and in part reassuring he has suggested a lower CFR of 1% based on the figures he is constantly analysing

Here is a link to Worldometer Map for live updates

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

and here is another link for news sources from BNO News.

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

I think it's unlikely that schools will close for the full next 9 weeks. If schools have to, they will also prioritise exam classes (eg if there is a shortage of teachers). It's also very likely they will run Easter catch up sessions.

If individual schools or students are badly affected, there are processes for getting "special consideration" for exams as well.

Lots of students won't work as hard at home, so if there is widespread disruption, grade boundaries are likely to be lower, too.

Those worried about GCSEs, your child will have covered most of the content by now and will be revising in lessons (obviously teacher led, but going over previous learning). Best way to prep for them being at hone will be to ensure they know where to get revision help online (eg hegarty maths, Seneca learning, etc) and possibly to invest in CGP guides.

If my school closes, I’m pretty sure I’ll be expected to send work by email to pupils. I’m starting to get a bank together tbh, either to send to any who have to self quarantine, or to make my life easier if the whole school closes.

They wouldn't test you even if you wanted Queen because you haven't been in one of the notifiable areas. This is going to backfire massively.

I’m more panicked because I’m a nurse and work with infants aged from newborn up until 2 years of age. Im pretty sure already sick infants of that age would be classed as vulnerable.

I’m due in work tomorrow and it’s making me anxious on their part.

How many of you are beginning to or ceasing normal activities?

DD has swimming and gymnastics in the nearby town today, with CV ever closer in beginning to consider limiting public contact as far as we are able.

I have a sore throat and cold symptoms myself, normally I would take some lemsip and get on with it.

Anyone else feeling that the latest case in Surrey is a tipping point? If whoever is spreading has been in contact with lots of people either knowingly or unknowingly spreading it then cases will increase significantly.

I am surprised at myself. I'm an HCP, confident that hand washing is the only adaptation that is required, and that there is no point in getting all worked up about the virus, just as ebola and bird flu were fine then this will be too...

...yet, I have just placed a tesco order for 300 quid's worth of food, bleach, soap, gloves and medicine instead of the intended task of booking flights for our family holiday.

So, given that this is entirely novel behaviour from me - I'm now worried.

Maybe you should mention flu like symptoms to them before you start your shift tomorrow Queen. Maybe they will make an exception for medical staff of vulnerable patients?

Bessica yes go to the arrow in the top right corner of screen, on drop down menu click Watch this Thread

It's just sensible vivarium. You have seen how people panic buy when there is even a hint of snow. You don't want to.be fighting over the last loaf in Tesco.

llykk I'm about to go out so haven't got time to search for it, but I did read somewhere last night about discussions for GCSE and A level exams.

I wonder if the time has come, that people with any type of flu/cold will take time off work or stay home from school. queen as you work with vulnerable new borns I would think you should call in sick whether its 'normal' flu or Covid just to keep them from catching any nasties

@MsJaneAusten Re GCSEs I think home learning and revision could work for some subjects but there are some where practical assessments and coursework are not yet completely finished or assessed. It means students will miss out on valuable lessons where topics and exam questions are reviewed or where they still need help or have questions they struggle with. I really hope that it doesn't come to this.

queen as you work with vulnerable new borns I would think you should call in sick whether its 'normal' flu or Covid just to keep them from catching any nasties

The problem is that 90% of us have got cold symptoms just because of the time of year and that a large number of our patients are in with respiratory condition so if we all called in sick there’d be no nurses on the ward.

Also, I was off 5 months ago so if I call in sick again it means I’m on a Stage 2 sickness level which means meetings with HR etc.

It’s all such a mess.

I honestly don’t know how the hospitals are going to cope, not just with the patient load but also because of the implications of lots of staff potentially needing to be off. I just don’t see how the virus can be contained or managed in hospital environments.

Like I said, DS lacks self-discipline. He won't revise for GCSEs at home.
He wouldn't cooperate if I did stand over him for 5 hours/day, 5 days/week & try to crack a revision whip (which I refuse to do, anyway).

I'll feel better after I get my head around this possibility.
DS's price to pay, I know.
I wonder what other annoying aspects I haven't thought of, yet.

I have another DC doing A-levels but she'll be fine -- very self-disciplined!

I do understand queen I work in an area of the NHS and we recently had a large percentage of staff off with the Norovirus and that puts strain on the ones left to carry out the work. Its a catch 22 situation

No, Ofwarren. Agreed.

I have never ever been a prepper or panicker. And, I'd scoff at travel anxiety.

There is something about the way this is spreading and the WHO's reaction that is unnerving.

I'll be happy once I've got disposable gloves and full cupboards - it's all stuff we use, just enough to get 5 of us through puking/shitting/coughing/sneezing/needing chicken soup for a few weeks.

Delaying buying flights though - and wondering about the big gatherings, we were going to the Edinburgh fringe. Hmmm. 100k visitors in the Royal Mile? It's never been cancelled, but, I bet that's on the Things To Discuss on COBRA on Monday.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria This is me! I'm also a HCP, I also have a background in research and data analysis so following reports and papers closely.

We will experience mortalities but we experience them from heart disease, strokes, RTA's within our communities. I am more concerned on the stress this will give to the NHS due to the high numbers of serious and critical cases needing hospitalisation. I really am unsure how the NHS will cope.

Also, I believe the effects of panic buying and supply issues will cause many problems.

Therefore, Ive stocked up (ie. panic bought before everyone else).

Its a shame technology couldn't step in AI nurses and teachers who wouldn't catch the virus could do all the contact work, although it wouldn't have the human touch or bedside manner, only in jest I don't think a robot could replace a nurse or teacher in reality, but its making me wonder about automating other areas that contact is an issue.

interestingly different vote outcome on this thread to the others, the last one was clearly not being unreasonable to be worried, this one is the opposite

I think a lot of regular users have turned off the voting because of the stupid constant email updates whenever it changes. I don't even see the option to vote anymore.

@NaturalBornWoman

Sorry this was for the previous thread. PSA supposedly here (though ? the P bit). Was on Leflunomide tablets (old fashioned chemo stuff I think) and kept getting low blood test results so gave up a few months back - it takes 3 months for that one to get out of system. Tried 2 biologics. One injection didn't like me - Oct so didn't do it again. In the last 2 months I've had one injection that's meant to last a week. GP agreed to me stopping. (Haematology were fine about my low blood tests while on the drug - in Dec off it mine were very good - very very normal).
Like you I get ill on immune suppressants. Never anything major for me just takes a long time to get over anything.
Cytokine storms - I really don't know how overactive my immune stystem is at the moment, I have ever so slight knuckle swelling in the morning and no pain. Also the drugs I have are an anti-TNF they have tested these in CV and were no help (I am sure I read that back in January).

I posted this on last thread but wanted to suggest this idea about schools

Regarding schools. What about a half way house situation. Those who can self-isolate with their children do school work at home. Lessons set by teachers by email each morning. Lots of schools use online teaching programmes anyway, mathletics, to rockstars etc. Those that absolutely have to go to school, taught by teachers in masks? Temperature checks at the school gate. Anyone with a cold/cough sent home.

No fines for non-attendance.

For teenagers not adhering to self-isolation surely they should be rounded up by the police and sent home. Then fines for ignoring self-isolation imposed to parents.

Think There is already legislation to cover the need to fine people ignoring public health requirements.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/129/contents/made
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I wish dh would take it more seriously.

He’s just told me someone from his office went to Italy on a skiing holiday. They came to work coughing and spluttering and have been sent home.
Asked him if he had plenty of asthma meds stocked. He hasn’t and is about to run out

Babies and young children seem pretty unaffected by this virus. Even if they get it, it tends to be very mild.
Part of the issue with this virus is how our immune systems react to it. I wonder if infants and young children who have a much less developed immune system, actually protects them?

Regarding schools. What about a half way house situation. Those who can self-isolate with their children do school work at home

I think we will rapidly get to the point where containment isn’t an option. Life will just have to carry on as normal for the 80% who get mild symptoms (whilst looking after the 20% who get very sick).

They were very slow to help British citizens on the cruise ship. much slower than other countries. That does not bode well.

Hmm - two schools of thought on that. In bringing people back they put the country as a whole at greater risk. Tricky..