To be worried about Coronavirus part 7

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As nearly full on the other one, Ill just leave this here and link to it on the other thread for when its full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3834698-To-be-worried-about-the-Coronavirus-Part-6?pg=10&messages=100

This video from lovely Dr John Campbell, is very informative and in part reassuring he has suggested a lower CFR of 1% based on the figures he is constantly analysing

Here is a link to Worldometer Map for live updates

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

and here is another link for news sources from BNO News.

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

The most recent case in Australia that was diagnosed yesterday is a beautician at the Gold Coast who treated 40 clients on Thursday before she went home sick. I guess they will be easy to trace. She had just returned from Iran.

@dingit it's sometimes hard to get across tone on a post. I just wanted to say that I wasn't meaning to come across as harsh at all.
Please continue to post. People are genuinely friendly here and all want to help each other through this pandemic.

It’s got to be in Indonesia, but it’s just not been tested for. There is no way other hot countries in that region have it and they don’t.

Your absolute gold standard for information will be the Johns Hopkins website.
hub.jhu.edu/novel-coronavirus-information/

nemo

Your manager is awful. No one should ridicule anyone with any concerns and esp not with croupy dc.

It's not you it's definitely her and she's showing ignorance in many ways.

Well dh managed to get some super drug hand gel. So that's me sorted for work at least. I'll give both dd one, older will be fine it's younger.

Dh is OK.

Ok I have a friend in Milan. News in this morning that people are starting to calm down a bit now. Apparently it is 0.2% of younger fit people needing hospital help - the 38 year old spreader is an exception not the rule. Everybody knows they need to be very careful when near immunocompromised or elderly people especially because you may have it and pass it on without knowing. Feeling slightly less panicked.

@ofwarren here's the link. doi.org/10.1016/j.jhin.2020.01.022

I think if this thing gets worse, unless you are working in public health, the emergency services, military, local government essential services, the odd supermarket deemed to be that areas designated food distribution point, utilities or can work from home, you will not be working.

Im sure we would all like to be able to protect our children before it gets any worse though this virus has up to a 2-4 week incubation period.

I know they are saying it doesn't seem to present with severe symptoms in children, but they are able to catch it at school and infect their parents. Sounds dramatic but how are we going to look after them when we're bedridden with this virus, or one of the unlucky who need hospitalisation? The symptoms are more severe/complicated, notably from age 40 upwards.

Re California - as at 27 Feb it had only been provided with 200 test kits (hence the many thousands of potentially exposed people left to “self-monitor”).

They have now designated eight testing labs and are supposed to be getting better stocks of test kits. It will be interesting to see what happens to their numbers when they actually start testing more than a handful of people.

The most recent case in Australia that was diagnosed yesterday is a beautician at the Gold Coast who treated 40 clients on Thursday before she went home sick. I guess they will be easy to trace. She had just returned from Iran.

Yikes. That'll be quite the cluster right there.

I think if this thing gets worse, unless you are working in public health, the emergency services, military, local government essential services, the odd supermarket deemed to be that areas designated food distribution point, utilities or can work from home, you will not be working.

Sorry that was supposed to be highlighted - @Fucket post not mine x

Yikes. That'll be quite the cluster right there.

Agreed, a lot of close contact with faces and hands means it's likely a lot will become infected.

The vast majority of people will simply have a miserable couple of weeks with a bad cough, high temp and muscle aches, but will make an uncomplicated recovery.
I’m more concerned about the up to 20% who may require hospitalisation, and specifically the ones who need ventilated in ITU for pneumonia/ARDS.
We just don’t have the capacity in the NHS to treat them all. My own hospital has just four ITU beds and only one of those is in an isolation cubicle. If we cancelled all surgery and borrowed all the theatre ventilators, that still only adds another 12. And we are the only hospital in a 25 miles radius, so we can’t just send patients elsewhere.
The only comparable situation in history was the polio epidemics of the 1950’s, where medical students had to spend 8 hour shifts hand ventilating patients with an ambu bag. I hope it doesn’t come to that!

The independent are reporting the Iranian MP with Coronavirus has died.

Oh come off it, if the virus dies at 27 degrees then how can it survive in a human body which is 37 or hotter with a fever?

@DominicCummingsForehead no, just the one and a toddler. They’re at a C minder 2 days a week, she does wraparound for her grandchildren 7 and 10 tho.

Doesn’t seem much point in closing schools. One parent has to take time off work to be with them but the other parent will still be getting the tube, going to their office, factory etc and then could bring the virus home.

On an earlier thread, someone mentioned the BBC programme Contagion from last year. It’s a really good watch - available on iPlayer. I couldn’t believe it this morning when the Haslemere case was confirmed as the whole Pandemic programme was based on Haslemere.

Obviously a huge coincidence but I’m also wondering if those who live there were just more on the ball due to their involvement

@BrokenBrit is that the one that was shown sweating and coughing on TV?

@DominicCummingsForehead

Even if kids don’t catch it, they touch absolutely everything. They may have the virus on their hands, clothes etc. Then they go home and give it to their diabetic mum etc. Then their mum is ill and can’t care for them. Or worse, dies.

People need the choice to keep their kids home with no consequences. Society needs kids to go to school so parents in priority industry can work.

Parker231

Our friends in Hong Kong are both working from home and their kids schools are closed. The kids are getting lessons streamed from their schools. On a practical level, it’s a real strain on their internet connection!

Someone's just told me that if you eat lots of garlic then it will protect you.
I said I was sure it would. If you ate the amount of garlic they were proposing then no one would come near them.

I have close relatives in Cambodia. Could someone please explain why Cambodia is on the government's list of problem countries, as there doesn't seem to be an outbreak there from what I have heard?
Thanks.

Same tbh with employees. If employees feel they can financially take time off work with no consequences they should. Working from home should be mandatory if possible.