To be worried about Coronavirus part 7

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As nearly full on the other one, Ill just leave this here and link to it on the other thread for when its full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3834698-To-be-worried-about-the-Coronavirus-Part-6?pg=10&messages=100

This video from lovely Dr John Campbell, is very informative and in part reassuring he has suggested a lower CFR of 1% based on the figures he is constantly analysing

Here is a link to Worldometer Map for live updates

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

and here is another link for news sources from BNO News.

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Apparently a boy from Hartlepool has tested positive after returning from a skiing trip.

IceWings

Link to the Hartlepool case?

I guess we will get that result at 2pm tomorrow IceWings

do you a link to the source icewings please

I don't think people close to me are taking this serious. One relative has been told to self isolate after coming back from a risky area yet another relative has gone today to visit them and come back and visited our elderly granddad. I mean?? How do you get it through to people that this is serious especially for an elderly person? Person in isolation has been alone for almost a week and showing no signs so other relative felt sorry for them and thought a visit would cheer her up.

I wish they would close the schools so I can keep my own children at home safe, and also not risk myself by teaching! But I also know many families where it would just cause chaos- both parents HCPs or police or even shop workers and bin collectors- we all still need our bins emptied, and be able to buy food, have doctors and ambulance personnel etc

I'm not sure thats right about Italy's stats. Is there a source for that?
They've said they're going to stop testing people who are not displaying symptoms. They haven't said they're not including positive testing but asymptomatic people in the figures.

I think that Iranian MP had underlying issues though due to chemical warfare from the Gulf Wars.

We cannot underestimate the effect that could have on the figures there

And it's all very well telling people to wash hands - well when you have. 3 year old who bloody licks random railings and sucks their thumb all the time after touching stuff...
Well short of house arrest we're fucked anyway!

I don't believe that Vietnam had 16 cases and they all just got better.

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/15-year-old-schoolboy-quarantine-17832371

Link for hartlepool case here. He apparently went into school with a sore throat so he's likely spread it to others.

I really think sending students back to school after returning from Italian ski trips was a mistake, and I think we'll see the results of this next week.

It was in the video posted by wheresmymojo copied it below for you

Not sure how accurate the information in the video is.

Person in isolation has been alone for almost a week and showing no signs so other relative felt sorry for them and thought a visit would cheer her up.

Makes a mockery of those who are doing the right thing. With attitudes like this you have to wonder what the point of isolation is.

I'm a bit skeptical about Vietnam too- but they have reacted very strongly- they have quarentined towns and all schools are still shut. I do think the spread there is low, but it's possible people aren't going to be tested as they don't want to be on lockdown.

I think they are deliberately keeping the full extent of this quiet. Won’t take much for people to start panic buying.

"I rang 111 and they said not to worry if he hasn't got a temperature or his symptoms don't persist any further."

So many mixed messages.

Italy announced on Feb. 26 that it would relax its testing criteria to the point that contacts linked to confirmed cases or recent travelers to outbreak areas would not be tested anymore, unless they show symptoms.

this is what worldometers says about Italy's reporting

growing number of discharged coronavirus patients in China and elsewhere are testing positive after recovering, sometimes weeks after
are being infected again' virus also could be "biphasic", meaning it lies dormant
reuters new york times

also if cases are underreported are ICU admissions underreported

Gloucestershire case is from the Cotswolds
www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/gloucestershire-patient-coronavirus-cotswolds-infected-3902068

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/15-year-old-schoolboy-quarantine-17832371.amp

Supposedly this boy has tested positive.

I may be being dumb but isn’t panic buying what they’d want? People spending lots of money, possible on stuff they might not need ‘just in case’. Surely that’s preferable for an economy-driven government.

Washington State Governor Jay Inslee declares state of emergency due to coronavirus

I live in the Cotswolds and am very concerned about the Cotswolds case as the local high school closed on Monday for a week and is being deep cleaned after a pupil returned from Italy and complained of feeling ill after returning to school . I’m wondering if this pupil is the Cotswolds case . DDs primary school friends have siblings at that high school

I guess the issue with panic buying is if there are supply chain issues caused by stuff coming from China.

However, I actually think the government is more concerned about economic disruption if lots of people stay home from work, and therefore businesses have to close (or alternatively, businesses closing as a precaution, and people not getting paid). I think they're concerned if they start closing schools etc, then some businesses would follow and that would have a knock on effect on the economy.

I also think the NHS couldn't really cope with lots of worried well turning up at doctor's surgeries etc.

They're probably worried about hitting the tourism sector if more people start cancelling holidays AND people perhaps decide not to come to the UK.

That's the cynical view.

It's also possible they don't have a clue and they're making things up as they go along.

the local high school closed on Monday for a week and is being deep cleaned

I'm surprised we haven't hard about this before now, a school closed for a week for a deep clean is big news.