To be worried about Coronavirus part 7

[Jenasaurus]

As nearly full on the other one, Ill just leave this here and link to it on the other thread for when its full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3834698-To-be-worried-about-the-Coronavirus-Part-6?pg=10&messages=100

This video from lovely Dr John Campbell, is very informative and in part reassuring he has suggested a lower CFR of 1% based on the figures he is constantly analysing

Here is a link to Worldometer Map for live updates

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

and here is another link for news sources from BNO News.

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/02/570081/concerns-covid-19-reappears-discharged-patients-worldwide

is quite reassuring

Which school is that space? My IL are in the Cotswolds

It’s Burford High School .
www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18263186.burford-school-closed-coronavirus-fears/

Brainfogg the panic buying could lead to chaos once the shelves start to get empty and everyone has hoarded more than their accounted fair share (or more than what the store intended to sell that day)

Thats when the arguing starts which then leads to the pushing and shoving....

Think Black Friday but instead of tvs it’s bags of pasta and loo roll. So yes for the initial sales the stores tills will jingle away. Once the shelves are bare then what?

Chaos leads to desperation which leads to injury and more panic. Meanwhile there’s still a good few weeks or months before we are at the stage of large scale containment.

The authorities have enough on their plates without A&Es filling up with crazed manic injured people.

IL are on Stroud so that's still quite far away. Thanks for that

It’s Burford High School

Burford closed on Friday 27th

U.S. CDC says coronavirus patient who died in Washington state was a man in his 50s, not a woman as reported by Trump

It's now in my county.
Have ended up having a huge argument with DP over my saying that, if it's in our Borough, I'm not risking it and we will have to go on lockdown to protect our DS. I told him previously that myself and another Mum from school with a child with lung Conditions have both said the same if it cake here. I know through bitter experience that the NHS is not going to be able to cope, I don't care what that twit Hancock says, there are NHS staff online saying they know the NHS will have to move to protocol whereby they pick who to let die. And in my experience, in fact the experience that is the root cause of why our DS is immunocompromised and has multiple lung conditions, I don't think they will care of he is ill. Let's be honest here. Our government has put structures in place whereby the NHS is screwed. Where they have instigated benefits that they know are killing vulnerable disabled people and they do not care, to them, this is a handy little pathogen to bring the benefits and care bill down.
He rang his poxy sister and both ganged up on me, saying I'm mad and need to see the GP (due to her being a bullying bitch when he was born early I had a nervous breakdown. I'm not ashamed but it's wheeled out anytime I don't for tow the fucking line and agree with the pair of them).
I've told him he either keeps our son safe or he can fucking leave. Even his school have said they are fine if both DCs stay off to keep safe so it's just ridiculous he won't agree to do what is needed to keep our son very possibly alive.
I am so angry. We are an island, we didn't need to be hit by this shitty avoidable disease. They're still not checking passengers from high risk countries either at airports.

Thursday 27th, not Friday.

@WaterSheep nope the student went in onnTuesday and complained of being ill and they sent all the students home and said the school would be closed until this Monday .. we’ve heard nothing since about the student except they were in N Italy on a skiing trip over half term .

space Ah ok, reports made it seem like it was closed from Thurs 27th until this coming Monday, so I was confused when you said it closed on Monday for a week.

The Cotswolds case is in Gloucestershire, not Oxfordshire.

Our school are telling us that all is well inspite of several pupils obviously been to zone 2. Our schools been shut and cleaned.

They said no pupils returning from the zone 2 shows any symptoms all is well.

BiBi

don’t freak out over this you need to be rational, take the precautions many here have discussed and wait another week to see if it was an isolated case or whether there is further spread. Be calm and focused. Pouring your panic into others will get you nowhere, if your DP doesn’t believe at the moment, just wait he will soon come around.

Remember, we’re all in his together right.

My DP was in Milan for work earlier this week and his work insisted he go back home to the UK and not risk his health. They told him he should self-isolate (no big deal as he can work remotely). The NHS advice is he needn't self-isolate unless he develops symptoms but he's decided he might as well. I of course can't isolate away from him and so if he gets it (I really hope not as I have an autoimmune disease and am not in the first flush of youth) then so will I. So far he's OK and I take his temperature morning and afternoon just to keep a check. I don't believe the NHS will be able to cope with this if we do go into full-on epidemic mode, it's too stretched as it is.

@watersheep ah I think that’s just the date the news article updated . My 9 year old DD is very frightened by it all as she had surgery to remove a bone tumour in September so her immunity is a little low . I appeased her by saying it was hopefully just precautionary but now hearing one of the cases is The Cotswolds I’m concerned .

@jellycat Burford is on the border with Oxfordshire but all the surrounding area is classed as the Cotswolds and pupils from our local villages attend there and we are The Cotswolds

The Cotswolds case is in Gloucestershire, not Oxfordshire.

Yes, I was just going to say the same thing. I want to know where so I can decide whether to still go out to lunch tomorrow or whether it's time to lock myself in!

Soumya @skarlamangla [Los Angeles times reporter]
after news of a coronavirus death in Washington state that is the first from the disease in the US, CDC officials are holding a press conference at 12. stay tuned.

CDC director Nancy CDC Director Nancy Messonnier said the three coronavirus cases in Washington include the first reported death, as well as the first case in a health care worker and the first case in a skilled nursing facility.

Some of the Washington cases are related to a long-term care facility called Life Care in Kirkland in King County. One is a woman in her 70s who is a resident there who is in serious condition. Another is a healthcare worker in her 40s who is doing well.

Washington officials say they expect to see more cases related to the long-term care facility.

King County public health officer Jeff Duchin says they are very concerned about outbreaks in long-term health facilities, because of the large numbers of older patients who are particularly at risk for serious consequences from COVID-19.

"While the overall risks to Americans are low we recognize that these populations of people who are medically fragile would be at higher risk if there is tranmsisison in their communities," said CDC Director Nancy Messonnier.

The patient in Washington who died was not connected to the long-term care facility and officials don't know how the patient became ill. The investigation is ongoing, said Washington officials.

Wow: The long-term care facility in Kirkland linked to COVID-19 has 108 residents and 180 staff members. So far, 27 residents have symptoms as do 25 staff members, according to Washington officials.

The man who died of COVID-19 in Washington was in his 50s and had underlying health conditions.

"If we had the ability to test earlier I'm sure we would’ve been able to identify patients earlier, particularly at hospitals," said Jeff Duchin, King County health officer.

CDC declines to provide updates about California cases in Solano and Santa Clara counties.

"Right now we still judge the general risk to the American public to be low and that includes residents to long-term care facilities," said CDC Director Nancy Messonnier.

Well that's a right fucking mess.

If I was a stay at home parent and my school was closed (as ours have been) I'd take my dc out if they had other health issues.

I'd much prefer to keep dd off until the kids from Italy have been through another week and we don't know if the kid who closed the school has it.

Because being at school will mean other pupils may have picked it up.

We have to instead send our dc back because a 'clean' has been done.
Pretty disgusting.
We should be told.... X didn't have it and was tested.

Pupils are mixing with each other, it's bonkers.

1st case of #Coronavirus in #IRELAND

We apparently now have three children self isolating having developed symptoms upon returning from the Italy ski trip. And apparently others who think they just have colds so they're still at school...

Just to clarify I live in a Cotswolds village ten minutes from Burford so the pupil could come from Cotswolds easily as it’s one if the catchment High schools . I wish they would say where in the Cotswolds

TBF there is a limit on the information schools can give out about individual pupils. They certainly can't share the results of medical tests of individual students or staff with parents- although I understand this would be reassuring for people.

BiBiBirdie

We all need to have a sense of perspective, 23 cases in a population 66m but lets say its 5,000 cases out of 66m, its still a tiny number

Its an illness that is not really any worse than influenza, which kills about 10,000 people in the UK each and every year.

However, given all of the above, why exactly is the world sooooo concerned about Covid19 ? is there something they are not telling us?