To be worried about the Coronavirus Part 6

[Jenasaurus]

Old thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3833553-to-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-5

@BloomedAgain yes I'm stopping my biologics and have to call the rheumatology nurse to check if I can just stop the methotrexate or tail off but I'm missing this week's dose anyway and GP is 99% sure it will be fine to just stop. The decision wasn't difficult for me because whilst these drugs have improved my psoriasis I haven't seen a significant improvement in my joint and back pain. It just doesn't justify the risk right now for me, but others will feel differently depending on circumstances.

I watched a documentary about a pandemic in Haselmere the other week, the residents did a trial run to see what would happen in the event of an epidemic, it was on BBC4 I think. filmed a could of years ago

haslemeretoday.com/haslemere-pandemic/

Do you think perhaps the GP is a separate case will be included in tomorrow’s stats?

Yup, it’s sobering watching

I believe it came from bats, just that it didn't originate in a wet market and was Instead leaked from a lab and that's what makes it into a conspiracy theory. It's not unheard of. Sars was accidentally leaked from two labs one in Singapore and one in China and caused mini outbreaks after the main pandemic had stopped.

This still rests on the concept that viruses jumping species without human intervention is implausible. It's not. It has happened more than once since we developed the technology to trace viral origons, and goodness knows how many times it has happened throughout history before that. I mean, let's take the "sweating sickness" that killed people around Europe in the middle ages and then disappeared. What was that? Likely a non-human animal disease that was picked up by humans.

I don't remember anything happening with a Chinese lab, but IIRC, a lab worker doing research on SARS had a mishap and infected himself. He didn't pass it on to anyone else, AFAIK.

Is the GP not included in the 20 cases we know about? The BBC gave case 20 down as a patient of the practice!

I believe the guardian are reporting that the GP is a separate case to the patient in Haslemere, and has not yet been confirmed by PHE.

In their article where they talk about the man in Haslemere with no travel history they say:
"Separately, the Guardian has been told that a GP may also have been infected with the virus."

Per the Guardian:

“Separately, the Guardian has been told that a GP may also have been infected with the virus.”

So another in the pipeline, perhaps?

Ah right, so there are 21 cases. Urghh

Ah right, so there are 21 cases. Urghh

Getting ever close to my predicted 30 case by the end of the week.

By the end of the following week I predict we'll be closing in on 100.

I wonder if the human to human transmission came from doctor to patient, or vice versa?

How long is testing taking?

Dh said 2 weeks.

Can't be that long.

For those worried about their immune response being low while on medications. Are the doctors agreeing with you to stop? As the research that I've read so far has suggested that the coronavirus is not what is necessarily killing patients but the aggressive immune response which triggers massive inflammation of the lungs and exudate in the alveoli that makes oxygen exchange fail to work. My hypothesis would be that a reduced immune response may actually be better...I will try to find the link to the paper.

testing apparently takes 24-48 hours.

We don’t know that the GP is at the Haslemere practice, I suppose.

isn`t 100 the magic number the government start more measures (closing things??)

The testing is quick. My sibling was tested at 4pm and was notifird about 48 hours that they were ok. The test was 6 hours after calling 111

That's interesting Natural. I need to check on this.
@cocodomingo that's fascinating

Thank you for your comments @PotholeParadise, that's all I really wanted when I put my original post on here. Just a debate to see what everyone's thoughts were and I've read lots of information I hadn't previously know. In regards to the previous laboratory accidents there are several accounts from good sources but this is from the WHO'S own website. www.who.int/ith/diseases/sars/en/

Coco, I’ve kept taking my immune suppressant meds for that reason - if I do get the virus I can hopefully avoid the ‘cytokine storm’ I have read about that causes the lungs to fill with fluid.

Not sure if it’s the right approach though. Nobody knows I suppose 🤷‍♀️

I take immunosuppressants too and have been told to keep taking them. I also read about the worst of the lung damage being caused by a large immune response, so I’m happy to keep having my injections for now.

Elham Sheikhi, 23 and a futsal player, died in Qom on February 26, 2020 from Covid-19:

women.ncr-iran.org/2020/02/27/covid-19-infection-kills-national-futsal-player-elham-sheikhi-in-qom/

But then why would it be worse for immune compromised people and the elderly, which is what we keep hearing?
Seems odd to me but I guess we have a lot to learn about the virus.

I thought the young/women were generally surviving the virus?

The Guardian is linking Patient 20 and the GP’s surgery:

The Guardian has been told that there are now concerns that a doctor from the patient’s surgery may also have been infected with the virus.

Sorry, I might have missed it with the fast pace of posts but I'm still intrigued about the lack of symptoms in nearly half of the cruise ship. What do we think this means?