To be worried about the Coronavirus Part 6

[Jenasaurus]

Old thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3833553-to-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-5

It really hasn't been around longer than we've been told.

There are all sorts of illnesses doing the rounds in Winter.

Please can people stop with the conspiracy theories based on zero evidence?

MrsTidyHouse - i dont want to start conspiracy theories but we had a really bad cough with fever go through our school - with hospital admissions

Kids have not been that hard hit in Wuhan by this.

Re Ocado, all the millions of people over 55 and / or with health issues are getting home deliveries maybe. I wouldn't blame them.

@TheoriginalLEM

SARS is a type of coronavirus, but the current virus "Covid-19" seems to spread much easier than SARS. Covid-19 has a much lower mortality rate, though, which is good. In the main SARS outbreak, only about 8000 cases were reported. Covid-19 has already gone far past that. SARS seems to only usually spread through prolonged exposure (people caring for someone who was ill were at most risk of catching it) and symptoms usually develop sooner. SARS also makes people much more ill, so they are less likely to carry on with normal activities/travel.

Swine-flu was a flu, so a different family of viruses. We already have vaccines/treatments for flu, so it was easier to treat. Swine-flu had a much lower fatality rate, around 0.01-0.08%. At the moment, Covid-19 has a fatality rate of about 2.5%. On a population level, that makes a huge difference in the number of deaths. Covid-19 also causes severe respiratory symptoms in about 10-15% of people and these people need hospital care. Hospitals would struggle to provide that level of care if large numbers were infected, which could cause the death rate to increase. Even having say 5% of the working age population unable to work would have serious economic impacts.

As with all viruses, there is a risk it could mutate and cause more serious symptoms.

It's not at panic level yet, but it is more serious than the flu, and on a global level more serious than SARS.

20 confirmed cases in uk now according to PHE

Coronavirus cases at military base north of Paris

They've just updated; www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

That’s really interesting keepmoving particularly for me as DS takes one of the drugs listed!

Thanks everyone for the updates. One case just round the corner from my work so I'm worried.

Are today's cases still no announced?

Its not that there is zero evidence - the Italian superspreader took ages to diagnose as did the Northern Californian lady

Coupled with the fact that serious symptoms tend to show after 9-11 days plus its incubation of 3-14 days means the Italian cases are at least 2 weeks old that are appearing now

Had an email today from ocado saying they have unusually high volume of orders and book slots early. I wonder if this is due to self isolating/people avoiding going in public places like supermarkets

Or maybe it's because of the horrible weather, people don't want to go out?

*not

There is nothing more effective than basic hygiene, washing hands thoroughly and regularly to remove virus from hands considering the transfer rate through repeatedly touching face.

Some don't even wash their hands after using the loo, anywhere public hand-washing is the best form of self-protection, short of not going out!

People are still not doing it, and it will spread fast this way.

I really can't see what the issue is with regular and thorough hand-washing. Its so simple and so effective, along with not touching your face.

Avoid being in close proximity, tube, bus, commuter train, and don't touch surfaces, or use antibac to cleanse.

Stupid of most idiotic stupid thinking and risk increasing process is having every gp patient use a touch screen!!

I mean, how fucking ridiculous, and what a perfect way to encourage every patient to share their germs!

At least have the anti-bac stuff right next to the acreens with a screen cleanser for pre use, plus big signs!!!!

UPDATE on coronavirus (#COVID19) testing in the UK:

As of 28 February 2020, a total of 8,986 people have been tested:

8,966 negative.
20 positive.

For latest information visit:
t.co/CZh5JdyN2Q t.co/rEeU7lGSck

Is that a new case? Thanks ofwarren

Yes a GP from Surrey. The story is in the guardian.

England reports 1 new case of coronavirus in UK's first known instance of human-to-human transmission t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Thanks ofwarren, glad it's not worse to be honest. Expect numbers to rise over the weekend though.

*Stupid of most idiotic stupid thinking and risk increasing process is having every gp patient use a touch screen!!

I mean, how fucking ridiculous, and what a perfect way to encourage every patient to share their germs!*

OMG I am so with you with this @usernameishistory, I rant about this all the time! I also have an issue with children's toy areas in doctors surgeries: why oh why would you want your child to play with toys that every ill kid in the area has put its germs all over?! 😱 Just no!

I thought Steve had spread to other people in the UK or was just the people in France?

Ocado have been offering 40% off for first delivery as well so that could be why

One further patient in England has tested positive for COVID-19. This is being investigated and contact tracing has begun.

The virus was passed on in the UK and the patient has been transferred to a specialist NHS infection centre at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital.

Although it's worrying it was passed on in the UK!

#ITALY— #Coronavirus: 20 positive cases in #Liguria , all related to #Alassio