To be worried about the Coronavirus Part 6

[Jenasaurus]

Old thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3833553-to-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-5

What freaks me out, under the circumstances, is food sitting right out in the open. The pastries in Waitrose for instance, just lying out for anyone to prod or cough on.
I was in France a couple of weeks ago and they handle all the stuff in the boulangerie with their bare hands as well.

Department of health just shared this 🙄
PM @BorisJohnson on the public health advice for coronavirus prevention. t.co/XvwVeb1uMM

I think PHE are actually putting schools in quite a difficult position. If they feel a student is a risk (and schools are also aware of, for example, immune-compromised children who share classes) and send a child home, but PHE say to a parent the school should allow the child to come to school, the school are likely to be accused of illegally excluding children if the parent really pushes for the child to be allowed back.

If I had a child with an underlying health condition, I think I'd be talking to their school about how best to protect them.

FWIW I was initially of the view that with SARS, avian flu etc, the spread was well contained and I thought this would be similar. The outbreak in Italy has changed my view.

I actually don't have a problem with the Boris video. Hand washing is the most important thing we can do on an individual basis and they've obviously decided that's the main message they want to ram home so they haven't diluted it with other messages 🤷‍♀️

Yes, the confirmed case in Swansea. There is a connection to my son’s school but beyond that I don’t know anymore.

It has been leaked from a lab. Probably mistakenly but the market story is fiction.

Boris always has a silly smirk.

Sorry - new to this thread. Am wondering what is different about this compared to the other viruses - e.g. swine flu SARS

NEW: Google says one of its employees at the office in Zurch has tested positive for coronavirus; his or her last visit to the office was before developing symptoms

I saw masks in my local chemist today but I don’t think they’re effective anyway from what’s been said

We all had the awful fluey-cold at the end of last year. Three, four, five weeks of coughing. Feeling better for a couple of days, then it came back with a vengeance. I’ve never experienced anything like it before. Ten-year-old in particular was so thin and pale that it took the whole two-week holiday to recover.

I agree with PPs that something has been around for longer than we’rebeing Told.

TIL that it can take 37 seconds to say "wash your hands"- I actually agree that this is important advice, along with using tissues etc, however I think as PM he could be saying more.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detected
This article totally backs up my feelings re: Italy and I think other european countries could be in the same situation.

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus Yes I should have said we have been receiving passengers from Iran as they will be flying indirectly via Russia. There is a sizeable Iranian community round my way.

Apologises for the Daily link but shares that scientists in Norway are suggesting "repurposing" existing drugs has shown to impact Covid 19 in lab environment... I so hope this is true!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8053323/amp/Scientists-claim-antibiotics-market-treat-coronavirus.html

That was a really great job by Boris there...fucking hell.

That was the level of statesmanship I'd expect from my 9 year old goddaughter

@TheoriginalLEM

COVID is also known as SARS-COV-2, it is basically a sister of SARS.

SARS had a mortality rate of 10%, and this is somewhere around 2-5% so less fatal. However it was much harder to catch SARS, this is much easier to catch hence why we see it spreading globally so quickly.

Swine Flu is a type of influenza, so a different virus altogether. Swine flu was easy to catch but had a low mortality rate - something like 0.2% compared to 2-5% for COVID.

There was some early initial worries about Swine Flu when it first started in Mexico that it could have a higher mortality rate but it was very quickly realised that it wasn't actually that fatal and 'only' killed 400 people in the UK (obviously tragic for those involved).

Does anyone see a connection between BoJo being hard to find out and about and the possibility that senior UK officials might have known more about what is going on (virus leak from lab) and the extent of international transmission for quite a while before the public has caught on?

NEW: French health minister says several clusters of coronavirus identified, 19 new cases today t.co/eUoE2b20hL

It is not a virus leaked from a lab

That theory was in a paper that wasn't peer reviewed and has been thoroughly debunked by various scientists since.

I remember reading a press release from the Pakistan minister for health about a fortnight ago, which basically said, "Wash your hands and pray to God. It only kills 2%." I thought, bit harsh, but what else can they reasonably do? They don't have the medical system or the technology to have an approach like South Korea or China.

Apparently, we are receiving exactly the same advice. Except we're not expected to pray.

*We all had the awful fluey-cold at the end of last year. Three, four, five weeks of coughing. Feeling better for a couple of days, then it came back with a vengeance. I’ve never experienced anything like it before. Ten-year-old in particular was so thin and pale that it took the whole two-week holiday to recover.

I agree with PPs that something has been around for longer than we’rebeing Told.*

Nasty viral run-of-the-mill seasonal bugs do the rounds every year.

If the UK had had widespread Coronavirus spreading unchecked since December I think the MASSIVE death toll that would be associated with it would have been a red flag long before now.

French health minister advises people not to shake hands, says coronavirus epidemic in France has entered a new stage - BFM

Had an email today from ocado saying they have unusually high volume of orders and book slots early. I wonder if this is due to self isolating/people avoiding going in public places like supermarkets