To be worried about the Coronavirus Part 6

[Jenasaurus]

Old thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3833553-to-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-5

I think some posts on here are simply scaremongering and overly dramatic. Most people who are dying are very elderly or already poorly. Countries are managing it as best as they can and this country will manage it, we won't all die and life won't change forever.

Season flu has killed 78000 people this year, Corona 2869. I know we have the flu jab and it's more understood, but many people are still dying from flu even though we have the flu jab and even though it's more understood. It's frightening and unknown but please keep in mind that many many people are recovered and it barely seems to even be affecting some.

Prepare if you feel you need to, and be safe, cautious and hygienic. Be aware.

This is why sources are so important on this thread, as figures and facts naturally get twisted and cause unnecessary panic and worry.

Good, I'm glad. Bye pombear

@PlomBear I feel the same.

Grinchlywords. Thank you I wondered if I was missing something.

My son told me there was an advert on the radio this am. But other than that I have heard of so little.

My DD16 told me last night she'd been told at school if they can't take their GCSEs because school is shut they will get awarded their predicted grades. Not sure how true that is though!

The news referred to the wales infected person as a male, who flew back from Italy at the weekend and then became unwell.

It would be helpful if they could confirm where in Italy the recent cases have returned from. This might inform others to be more vigilant and also schools with recent ski trip returnees could give more advice.

@BackInTime Thank you - seems to be what I'm hearing too. I am supposed to be spending 18 hour in a germ ridden pool handling money. I will be sanitising my hands, not eating in apublic space, asking my DD to do the same.

lol theres no "hysteria"

oh the drama of flouncing and hiding the thread!! how funny

Are the UK the only ones scaremongering?

I’ve looked at Italian media outlets, and it’s not as scaremongering as thenUK media is reporting.

I seen some videos today of china dissolving dead bodies and bodies of people dropping dead... not sure how accurate/true this is ?

I hope this does cause a shift to remote meetings via screens instead of endless international business travel. I kept expecting it to happen as technology advanced.

*disposing

@PlomBear

with a First in nursing and currently studying a Master’s degree, my intelligence isn’t in question

Says you

Working yourself up into a frenzy is pointless. Wash your hands. Avoid people with the infection. There is nothing else you can do

No one is in a frenzy & yes there’s plenty more that can be done!

What good is sitting at home sobbing going to do? Get a grip

Nurse you say? Such compassion. 🙄

I say that as somebody with asthma. I’m more worried about being run over by a car crossing the busy road near my house

Well good for you. Personally I find it ridiculous to sit at home sobbing about the possibility of getting run over

Lastly. WhyTAF click on a thread that’s clearly not of interest to you, then bitch about it?!

STOP COMPARING COVID19 TO THE FLU!

Book a trip to Wuhan and take some Lemsip along if the two are so similar.

Remember the Erin Brokovich scene where they offer the glass of Hinkly water to the naysayers....

Parker Who would look after the children if their parents or teachers got sick or died? Who will look after those ill in hospital if doctors and nurses are sick or dead?

We can't have complete lockdown but we could certainly do more to mitigate the risk. Even some reduction in people mixing and a temporary banning of large gatherings would help - if nothing else by staggering cases so hospitals and HCPs are not overwhelmed. Not all, but many jobs can be done from home. All those who can work from home should be allowed to do so. Students can access online study resources.

Is not short-term inconvenient preferable to longer term disruption?

I've been following CV from the start, I run the Preppers threads and read all the medical papers, etc.

I do think we all need to take a couple of deep breaths at the moment and remember that currently the risk here is still low.

I do believe there will be a point where it is higher, but we aren't there yet, we have no community clusters identified at this point.

Things like getting a plane to Sweden are IMO fine, you'd have to be very unlucky to be sitting within 2 rows of someone with CV. There's no evidence of anyone catching it through circulated air on a plane.

I do understand that those who have compromised immune systems have more reason to be concerned.

The rest of us should prepare but not panic.

Iceland reports first case of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

Plombear that is the counsel of despair.

The positive route is if there is an outbreak , slow it by restricting public mixing and so give the health service a chance to save more of the cases that require hospitalization.

@LittleRen

Most people who are dying are very elderly or already poorly

Oh well, that’s ok then. I’ll tell my older family members & friends and already sick f&f’s that they don’t count & we shouldn't worry about them

@FelicityFebruary Completely agree. Technology isn’t being exploited enough. Minimise the endless handshaking too while we’re at it.

I seen some videos today of china dissolving dead bodies and bodies of people dropping dead... not sure how accurate/true this is ?

Pretty unlikely. People don't tend to drop dead in the street with pneumonia - they'd be feeling too ill to be wandering around for a start.

Do you have a link to the dissolving bodies? I'd be interested to see what it actually shows and what the other explanations could be.

There have been lots of fake videos circulating that have already been proven to be false (people fitting - which isn't a symptom the poor buggers are just having an epileptic seizure).

Also the video circulating the other day of the bloke dropping to the floor in Canary Wharf has been proven to be fake (just an idiot playing a prank).

Have watched these threads with interest. I have young DC in childcare, commute by public transport 2h a day and work in HE. So I reckon I would be a high risk candidate if and when things kick off.

Advice on self isolation at home would be impossible for me - we only have 1 bathroom, kids who still need attention at night, 1 still breastfeeding. So holing up 1 person per room just wouldnt be a possibility. Surely this is far from unusual? The advice seems ridiculous given how v many people would simply be unable to follow it.

For contractual reasons I dont receive sick pay. Holiday pay is paid at the end of the year. There is no means for me to take time off work and be paid. There are countless people in the so called gig economy in the same boat. What are they / we supposed to do in the event that extended time off work is mandated / requested / simply in everyone's best interests? If this is you, what are you planning to do? To me this seems a far greater concern than filling up my cupboards with extra tins of beans.

As an aside, do none of the people panicking about n95 masks / hand gel shop on Amazon? Have just checked for both those items having read questions on this thread and both seem to be in stock.

My final question is how anyone is meant to know they've got corona virus in the first place? Temperatures, coughs, sore throats, 'flu-like symptoms' - these are par for the winter's course around here. GP doesn't want to know and cant prescribe anything to help anyway so we do not waste everyone's time with appointments for every malaise that comes along. We get on with it because we have to. So how would I know if I had it, or one of the dc did?

Sorry for the massively rambling post. I cannot seem to decide whether to be worried and start trying to take steps towards preparedness, whether it's all a load of overblown paranoia or whether it's just a futile waste of energy either way because actually a person in my position can do precisely nothing except get on with their life in the normal way.

I'm new to this thread. Thought it may be interesting. Shame that there seems to be so many unpleasant posters who are unable to have a debate without resorting to silly little insults. Never mind.

STOP COMPARING COVID19 TO THE FLU!

Book a trip to Wuhan and take some Lemsip along if the two are so similar.

This ^

The people claiming it's no different to flu and only dangerous to a subset of people (as if that's ok) are just lazily assuming this virus is comparable to swine flu. It's not. Go do a bit of reading and stop posting ignorant nonsense.

Panicking isn't a good idea but neither is being complacent. People should inform themselves and take reasonable precautions.

I predict the death of the business handshake!