Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

Every country has its traumas.
WW2 left Europe in pieces.
The famine is part of history. No Irish person is a victim of it now . ( or if they are the real “victims” are living elsewhere because their ancestors had to emigrate )
I know all about Irish poverty and the oppression in the North. It’s why my parents emigrated. When I go back I see an affluent country that has moved on . That’s good .

Ireland did actually suffer in ww2. Many of our people were promised Irish unity if they went to fight for the British. They didn't get what they were promised and also a lot of them never came home. I think you need to brush up on your Irish history (unsurprisingly most of it doesn't get taught in UK schools)

Would you think it ok to tell people to ‘get over’ what their family or ancestors suffered in WW2?
I think not. History matters.

History does matter. We have to learn from and make sure the same mistakes are not repeated.
I have friends and neighbours who had relatives die in gas chambers or were sent to Siberia when Russia took over Poland. We have all suffered. I do think after 180 years it’s time to treat the subject of the famine as history not personal.
And I’m just not sure what the Irish famine has to do with this thread.

@OpheliaWasntMad, "I do think after 180 years it’s time to treat the subject of the famine as history not personal."

Just as a matter of curiosity do you feel that all the events in WWII should be consigned to the history books?

It has a lot to do with it. Irish people show solidarity because their history includes starvation , oppression & genocide too. The same as is happening in Gaza.

The very forward and modern Ireland that you see has grown from it's history though. History shapes our identities, cultures, beliefs, traditions, and the way we understand the world around us. It shapes our values, the way we understand oppression and occupation.

Can you really not see how the people from a country whose ancestors were starved, their lives made so unlivable they were forced to emigrate would feel a certain type of way watching people today being starved and their lives being made unlivable with the hopes that they will leave their land. You can't see how that would be relevant?

It's not about living in the past, it's not about being perpetual victims, it's about learning from our past and speaking up for others so that hopefully they don't become victims of the things that our ancestors had to live through.

We have to learn from some history but if it involves Irish people they need to move on and forget about it. Right, got it.

The occupation of NI goes back much longer than The Famine . It was under James VI where land was taken from the Irish in order to populate it with Protestants , many Scottish where you get the Ulster Scots language from . Known as the Ulster Plantation.
The Famine remains an issue as Ireland was under British rule , where food could have been provided but what little there was allocated to supply chains that landlords had established. Add to that , the forced evictions leaving thousands homeless . This was during Victorian times . Where they were also committing atrocities against the people of India.

So genocide and forced occupation resonates with the Irish and the similarities to the Israeli occupation of Palestine.

'It has a lot to do with it. Irish people show solidarity because their history includes starvation , oppression & genocide too. The same as is happening in Gaza'

There wasnt and isn't genocide in gaza. 3% of the population killed in a conflict started by hamas is not genocide. They had truckloads of aid, footage showed very healthy and often obese looking locals. There is not oppression just a country defending itself against terrorists from gaza.

If you have learnt anything from your 'history' then I'd aim for not falling for the bollocks spouted by terrorists to be top of the list.

Keep believing that oh Glorious one ..if it makes you feel better..

The International Court of Justice case is ongoing re genocide.

@Gloriia, "If you have learnt anything from your 'history' then I'd aim for not falling for the bollocks spouted by terrorists to be top of the list".

I don't but I certainly don't listen to Israeli propagandists who have been caught lying more times than they have the told the truth by a long way. In fact, the only time they tell the truth is when they have no choice and have to admit they lied.

😂

At least we don’t embarrass ourselves by singing it’s coming home

It just looks so performative from the Irish.

How so?

That is true but then it's never even close is it

I’m from Irish heritage and my family were just as much a victim of oppression and famine as yours. I don’t need the history lesson.

I can identify with the suffering of innocent Palestinians - particularly women and children who have been used as human shields by Hamas who sheltered in their midst.
I can also identify with Israelis who have had a traumatic experience of oppression and genocide in the past and are surrounded by terrorist groups in the present.
They are a group of people who have known what it’s like to be persecuted for hundreds of years.

The percentages should speak for themselves. 3%. Do google how many Jews were wiped out in Poland etc in ww2. I'll give you a clue, far more than 3%. That was genocide. This wasn't, it was a conflict.

The icj? Well if they're anything like the clowns in the ICC I'll take anything they say with a pinch of salt.

Genocide involves decreasing a population ( should be obvious tbh, but here we are), not increasing it. If Israel wanted to wipe out gaza they could easily have done so.

Don't lap up everything terrorists tell you, learn from your history. Hamas/palestinian freedom fighters/ resistance whatever you wanna call them are not a good bunch nor are any of their fans.

😂 don’t be salty! Take a joke, at your expense for once!

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/10/1168528

Those of you who <checks notes> have solidarity with those allegedly oppressed and starved. Are you not bothered at all by the crisis in Yemen? If yes where are all your threads and posts?

Or, is it only hate for Jews when retaliate and defends themselves? Funny that.

Right back at you

Don’t worry we’ve heard it 1000 times before 😂

Ssssh, they’re number 55 in the world, and what’s more, the rest of the world LOVES them (apparently)