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trumpredcard · 23/07/2026 06:12

Twiglets1 · 22/07/2026 17:26

I don't know who @ByRareLemonCritic is either.

But I didn't see you commenting on a new username when @trumpredcard joined the thread ...even though their first few posts were just laughing emojis at everything I said. They may not have been completely new to CITME board either but as you know, it's ok for people to change usernames for any reason they choose to.

Be consistent at least if you are going to comment that someone created a name just to post that

😂

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2026 06:22

trumpredcard · 23/07/2026 06:12

😂

🙄

ByRareLemonCritic · 23/07/2026 09:44

TopPocketFind · 22/07/2026 17:04

You created a name just to post that Confused

And?

JadeHare · 23/07/2026 10:08

Well this is good news - not. More dead people I expect.

From the Wall Street Journal:

“WASHINGTON—The U.S. is surging forces, medics and weaponry to the Middle East to give President Trump more muscular military options as he considers expanding the conflict against Iran, according to people familiar with the matter.
In the past week, special-operations forces have deployed to the region from their U.S. bases, according to flight-tracking data and U.S. officials. Squadrons of jet fighters have been staged across the Middle East, and bomber aircraft at bases in the U.S. and U.K. are on high alert to ramp up operations, according to one of the officials.
Additionally, more than 150 medics have arrived at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany in recent days, another official said. The hospital is the primary location for treating troops injured in combat in the Middle East. ”

“The preparations are the latest indication that Trump is considering escalating the conflict after three American soldiers were killed in an Iranian attack in Jordan over the weekend. A fourth servicemember was killed in Iraq during a controlled detonation of an Iranian drone.

U.S. Central Command said on Wednesday that it had launched a 12th consecutive day of strikes against targets in Iran. “The mission will continue to further degrade Iran’s ability to threaten civilian mariners and commercial vessels transiting regional waters,” it said in a statement posted on X.
Retired Gen. Joseph Votel, the former commander of Centcom and of U.S. Special Operations Command, said the surge itself doesn’t necessarily mean major military operations are inevitable.
“The big idea here is to give the president and the secretary [of defense] the most flexibility, and the force the most options to present to them,” Votel said”

“A spokesman for the Pentagon referred questions about the troop movements to U.S. Central Command, which declined to discuss details, citing operational security. In a statement, the White House said Trump “always has all options at his disposal.”
The troop surge could also be designed to give Trump more capacity to target Yemen’s Houthi militants, who threatened this week to impose a naval blockade on Saudi Arabia. The president said Tuesday that he would “take care of things” if the Houthis targeted ships in the Red Sea.
Trump launched an airstrike campaign against the Houthis last year, which ended after nearly two months in a simple ceasefire, leaving the Houthis battered but not broken. They continued to target some ships but have mostly stayed on the sidelines since the Iran war began in February. They lashed out last week at Saudi Arabia, which they accused of bombing an airstrip to prevent an Iranian plane from landing at San’a airport.”

“On Wednesday, a tanker sailing through the Red Sea off the coast of southern Saudi Arabia was struck by an unknown projectile, sparking a fire, according to U.K. Maritime Trade Operations. The Houthis’ military spokesman said in a televised statement that the group had targeted two Saudi oil tankers with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones.
London Stock Exchange Group data indicates that both ships are Saudi-flagged and loaded crude and oil products a few days ago from Yanbu port, which Saudi Arabia has been using to bypass the Strait of Hormuz. They were continuing to head south toward Bab al-Mandeb, a narrow chokepoint between Yemen and Djibouti.
The preparations come despite concerns in Washington about America’s endgame and the mounting cost of the war, which has reached more than $37 billion, according to congressional testimony this week from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Returning to all-out war also risks further draining U.S. munitions and exacerbating disruptions to global oil supplies, as Iran continues to attack commercial ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz and as the Iran-backed Houthis threaten shipping in the Red Sea.”

Jordan Becomes New Flashpoint in U.S.-Iran War as Troop Deaths Rise — The Wall Street Journal

The close U.S. ally has seen a buildup of American forces in the conflict

https://apple.news/PwwJDe84VPoTe8QAaeA_9IA

trumpredcard · 23/07/2026 10:15

Thanks for that @JadeHare There's nothing like a good war to boost the coffers of the defense industry, but somehow I don't think that will be the first thing on the minds of 66+% Americans when they think of Trump's war.

It's now gone past the stage of mission creep and descended into mission 'fall into an infinite dark hole'.

JadeHare · 23/07/2026 10:24

Looks like the continued bombing of Iran is teaching them how to improve their own weaponry too. Who would have thunk it? Not Donny…..

From The Telegraph:

“Officials told the Wall Street Journal that Tehran had been firing high-speed missiles that could manoeuvre as they closed in on targets, making them more difficult to intercept.
Iranian officials, meanwhile, told The Telegraph they were learning lessons under fire from the American onslaught, striking faster and more accurately with their own missiles.
One official in Tehran said: “The Americans themselves are the main reason behind the improvement of our missiles in recent days, and it is very easy. It’s all about taking lessons from the launch in the morning and the next one.”
Early in the war, if a missile launcher was struck by US forces, it would take Iran 15 hours to make it operational again. Now, they are able to fire missiles at US bases in less than 30 minutes.”

Excerpt From
“How Iran’s missiles became more lethal”
Ben Farmer, Akhtar Makoii
The Telegraph
https://apple.news/AooMUow-mR5CY0SvnbFmDUQ
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How Iran’s missiles became more lethal — The Telegraph

Launcher recovery time drops from 15 hours to 30 minutes as Tehran learns from US strikes

https://apple.news/AooMUow-mR5CY0SvnbFmDUQ

JadeHare · 23/07/2026 13:17

This war is going well then. From the Telegraph:

“The new squeeze on world oil supplies brings global energy markets closer to a tipping point. Beyond that, an economically punishing supply shortage, and price spiral, lies in wait.
A crisis has been averted so far because China and the US are aggressively running through their stockpiles, easing the market pressure. But nobody knows how much Beijing has left in the tank and the US strategic petroleum reserve has been drained to its lowest since 1983.
Since March, the Americans have released about 105 million barrels. They can release about that much oil once more before they run the risk of damaging their tanks and pipelines becomes too great.
As of the start of the month, the reserve had roughly 319.5 million barrels left.”

“Unsurprisingly, the Brent crude oil price is bubbling up again. It is now verging on the $100-a-barrel threshold at which Donald Trump typically takes to Truth Social and claims that a deal with the Iranians is imminent.
This time, he has taken a harder line. He said he would keep bombing Iran until it came to the table with a pledge to reopen Hormuz.
His latest threat is to take out an Iranian bridge or power plant in exchange for every tanker that Iran or its proxies attack. The writ of the Geneva Convention no longer runs in the Middle East.
Mr Trump’s campaign to bomb Iran into submission needs to succeed before the oil market reaches the precipice.

“If not, the economic hit could scupper the Republicans’ chances at the mid-term congressional elections in November. No amount of talk about Chinese electoral malpractice will be able to deflect the blame.
But the annals of war suggest that bombing campaigns alone seldom bring an adversary to accept defeat. It will take a vast amount of munitions, and perhaps ground troops, to grind Iran into a truly hopeless position.”

“Iran is hurting too, of course. Its economy is in pieces, its military has been degraded, its own drone and missile stocks are dwindling. If the US shuts off swathes of its power supply, both military operations and ordinary life will become very hard indeed.
But life was already pretty hard under sanctions. And there is not much alternative, or much capacity for dissent. So it is probably safe to assume that the Iranian pain threshold is higher than the American one.
As the clock ticks down, Mr Trump will either have to retreat or double down. The Iranians seem almost hopeful of luring him into a ground war.”

““Ground operations provide many opportunities to damage and inflict more casualties on the enemy. Our effectiveness and efficiency will certainly be much higher in this area,” said Brig Gen Akraminia.
The rest of the world will be hoping that Mr Trump’s race against time has a viable exit ramp. But it’s hard to spot it through the fog of war.”

Excerpt From
“Short of missiles and cash for war, now Trump is running out of oil”
Hans Van Leeuwen
The Telegraph
https://apple.news/AnBALpXs3SRmeVEo4JUiCXA
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Opinion: Beware the rising energy dangers of Trump’s Gulf war — The Telegraph

The whole global market is seizing up, threatening all of Andy Burnham’s plans

https://apple.news/PgJ_A2GEbSudS5T04KXI7R6

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2026 13:23

The Telegraph reporting that the US deployed a B1 bomber from a British base to attack Iran, according to officials.

It was the first such mission launched from the UK since Andy Burnham became Prime Minister.

The long-range plane was used for the first time since the war resumed to hit IRGC targets, sources told Axios.

The B1, which can carry two dozen 2,000lb bombs, took off from RAF Fairford on Tuesday, and was seen on plane-tracking websites.

Mr Burnham had agreed to continue Sir Keir Starmer’s policy of allowing the US to use the air base in Gloucestershire, as well as Diego Garcia airfield in the Chagos Islands for “defensive strikes”, Bloomberg reported.

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/23/us-bombs-iran-from-uk-air-base-for-first-time-under-burnham/

RedTagAlan · 23/07/2026 13:51

Twiglets1 · 23/07/2026 13:23

The Telegraph reporting that the US deployed a B1 bomber from a British base to attack Iran, according to officials.

It was the first such mission launched from the UK since Andy Burnham became Prime Minister.

The long-range plane was used for the first time since the war resumed to hit IRGC targets, sources told Axios.

The B1, which can carry two dozen 2,000lb bombs, took off from RAF Fairford on Tuesday, and was seen on plane-tracking websites.

Mr Burnham had agreed to continue Sir Keir Starmer’s policy of allowing the US to use the air base in Gloucestershire, as well as Diego Garcia airfield in the Chagos Islands for “defensive strikes”, Bloomberg reported.

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/07/23/us-bombs-iran-from-uk-air-base-for-first-time-under-burnham/

That does not seem defensive to me.

TopPocketFind · 23/07/2026 14:35

Guardian

US accused of bombing Iran-Iraq border crossing used by religious pilgrims

Iran’s Shalamcheh border crossing with Iraq was crowded with “hundreds of pilgrims” when it was reportedly targeted in a deadly US strike, according to an expert.

As we reported earlier, two people were killed and 11 were wounded in the attack in south-western Iran overnight, according to state TV in Iran.
The border is used by Iranian pilgrims going toward Najaf and Karbala in Iraq to commemorate the annual Arbaeen gatherings, which can involve more than 20 million pilgrims each year.

Gregory Brew, a senior analyst at the Eurasia Group, said on X that, based on reports and video, the crossing “was crowded with hundreds of people, many of them pilgrims undertaking the Arbaeen journey to Karbala” when it was attacked.

“Hard to see what, if any, relevance this has to degrading Iranian capabilities in the strait,” he added.

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TopPocketFind · 23/07/2026 14:36

Oil hit $100 for first time since May -

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TopPocketFind · 23/07/2026 14:42

The landmark nuclear deal between the US and Saudi Arabia is dependent on Riyadh joining the Abraham Accords recognising the State of Israel, President Donald Trump has said.

"The Civil Nuclear Deal (There will be no enrichment of material!)... which pertains only to non-military use... will be approved, but is totally subject to Saudi Arabia joining the very respected and successful Abraham Accords," Trump said in a post on Truth Social.

Trump's remarks come after criticism from experts that the deal could run the risk of future nuclear proliferation in an already unstable region.

Saudi Arabia has previously said it would not recognise Israel without the establishment of a Palestinian state.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwye71yq8wwo

(I know it is very much 'Trump says')

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TopPocketFind · 23/07/2026 15:10

And here is Rubio

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mrcyimduxc2m

Q: Do you rule out striking civilian infrastructure?

MARCO RUBIO: Iran's policy is an eye for an eye. The president's policy is a head for an eye. Honestly. That's what it's going to be. They're going to pay a very heavy price. They are going to suffer more.

(Definitely not a yes!)

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Twiglets1 · 23/07/2026 15:43

RedTagAlan · 23/07/2026 13:51

That does not seem defensive to me.

Unusually ... I agree with you.

Ihatetomatoes · 23/07/2026 16:30

TopPocketFind · 23/07/2026 15:10

And here is Rubio

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mrcyimduxc2m

Q: Do you rule out striking civilian infrastructure?

MARCO RUBIO: Iran's policy is an eye for an eye. The president's policy is a head for an eye. Honestly. That's what it's going to be. They're going to pay a very heavy price. They are going to suffer more.

(Definitely not a yes!)

Awful. This feels like it will go on and on with tit for tat attacks.

JadeHare · 24/07/2026 09:58

The latest from the WH press briefing from the Independent:

“This was a short White House press briefing, but it was telling. When asked about the nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia, Leavitt first read out a Truth Social post made by Trump the night before (a bizarre choice in itself.) She then suggested that the reason Saudi Arabia gets a civilian nuclear deal and Iran doesn’t is because the Saudi deal gives “priority access to American companies” and “puts America first.” It’s extremely ‘we went to war for their oil’-adjacent reasoning, and it’s the type of thing even the world’s least scrupulous leaders tend not to say in public.
The administration limps on in Iran, repeatedly justifying death and destruction by saying that “Iran must never have a nuclear weapon”. Trump has even recently stated, without evidence, that the 17 American service members who have died in the conflict so far personally told him that that’s a belief they each individually held dear.
And yet, here we are, signing sudden deals with another country in the region that allow, according to some insiders, for Saudi to escalate its nuclear ambitions with no international oversight. It’s an incredibly risky thing to do from a geopolitical perspective. The justification — that it will make American corporations money and that’s why the country isn’t being bombed into oblivion like Iran — should be genuinely shocking.

Excerpt From
“Listen carefully to Karoline Leavitt. She’s revealing Trump’s scariest plans”
Holly Baxter
The Independent
https://apple.news/AvgwkckqpQfukx_e3hLvzsg
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Why a Saudi nuclear deal is a perfect metaphor for Trump’s presidency | CNN Politics

The Middle East’s great American disruptor is rolling the dice again.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/23/politics/saudi-nuclear-deal-trump-presidency?utm_source=cnn_Five+Things+for+Thursday%2C+July+23%2C+2026&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=6ksdVqhrIWtbPE4WES0%2BQbZIjZcN5eHWcXRpSr7y4aK4s6787ng%2B4lk6EqQKxZMG&bt_ts=1784803550067

RedTagAlan · 24/07/2026 10:53

JadeHare · 24/07/2026 09:58

The latest from the WH press briefing from the Independent:

“This was a short White House press briefing, but it was telling. When asked about the nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia, Leavitt first read out a Truth Social post made by Trump the night before (a bizarre choice in itself.) She then suggested that the reason Saudi Arabia gets a civilian nuclear deal and Iran doesn’t is because the Saudi deal gives “priority access to American companies” and “puts America first.” It’s extremely ‘we went to war for their oil’-adjacent reasoning, and it’s the type of thing even the world’s least scrupulous leaders tend not to say in public.
The administration limps on in Iran, repeatedly justifying death and destruction by saying that “Iran must never have a nuclear weapon”. Trump has even recently stated, without evidence, that the 17 American service members who have died in the conflict so far personally told him that that’s a belief they each individually held dear.
And yet, here we are, signing sudden deals with another country in the region that allow, according to some insiders, for Saudi to escalate its nuclear ambitions with no international oversight. It’s an incredibly risky thing to do from a geopolitical perspective. The justification — that it will make American corporations money and that’s why the country isn’t being bombed into oblivion like Iran — should be genuinely shocking.

Excerpt From
“Listen carefully to Karoline Leavitt. She’s revealing Trump’s scariest plans”
Holly Baxter
The Independent
https://apple.news/AvgwkckqpQfukx_e3hLvzsg
This material may be protected by copyright.

There was a bit on the CNN feed that the US have removed the latest US dead from the website that lists them. The WH ( or Pentagon) said it was a glitch.

JadeHare · 24/07/2026 11:06

Other people see it too.

“Netanyahu has led us into a horrible conflict filled with lies,” Steve Bannon, a longtime Trump adviser, said. “People can see with their own eyes what’s going on.”

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2026 13:48

RedTagAlan · 24/07/2026 10:53

There was a bit on the CNN feed that the US have removed the latest US dead from the website that lists them. The WH ( or Pentagon) said it was a glitch.

They haven't rectified the 'glitch' yet

https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/conflictCasualties/oefu/byCategory

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TopPocketFind · 24/07/2026 17:47

The Middle East is about to explode.

Bahrain and Kuwait secretly hit Iran’s drone and missile sites, their first direct retaliation,with the UAE providing intel and air cover, the WSJ reports.

Saudi Arabia is weighing its next move.

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trumpredcard · 24/07/2026 18:04

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2026 17:47

The Middle East is about to explode.

Bahrain and Kuwait secretly hit Iran’s drone and missile sites, their first direct retaliation,with the UAE providing intel and air cover, the WSJ reports.

Saudi Arabia is weighing its next move.

The article says that the attack took place earlier this month??

But I agree that something's got to give soon as the tit for tat attacks from both US and Iran can't continue indefinitely.

Twiglets1 · 24/07/2026 19:26

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2026 17:47

The Middle East is about to explode.

Bahrain and Kuwait secretly hit Iran’s drone and missile sites, their first direct retaliation,with the UAE providing intel and air cover, the WSJ reports.

Saudi Arabia is weighing its next move.

Found it on another site not behind a paywall:

Bahrain and Kuwait quietly deployed fighter jets to strike targets within Iran earlier this month, marking their first known direct military response against Tehran, The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday, citing “people familiar with the matter.”

The strikes hit facilities used to store drones and missiles, along with other military installations, according to the report.

The United Arab Emirates, which had previously launched several attacks on Iran during the early stages of the conflict, reportedly contributed intelligence on potential targets and provided defensive air support, reflecting growing coordination among Arab states in countering Iran, the report said.

For several weeks, Iran has concentrated its retaliatory attacks on Bahrain and Kuwait, both home to US military bases.

Although the two Gulf nations maintain relatively modest air forces equipped with American and European-made fighter jets, they were unwilling to allow Tehran to continue striking them without responding, the report said.

www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/report-says-bahrain-kuwait-carried-out-strikes-inside-iran-earlier-this-month/4008518

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2026 20:32

Ah sorry, sometimg went wrong and it only posted part of my post. Bur you found the article

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JadeHare · 24/07/2026 22:31

Clear as mud.

“President Donald Trump told reporters in the Oval Office Friday he has “a lot of” options for exiting the Iran war, then proceeded to describe just one: doing the exact same thing we’ve been doing.
“Well, I think there’s a lot of them,” he said. “There’s a military exit, where we just keep going just the way we are, and we can even make it a heavier dose… or there’s a smarter strategy and that’s — you make a deal.”
Trump then claimed the Iranians want to make a deal even though “sometimes they don’t want to say they want to make a deal.”
“They want to make a deal, I just don’t think they’re ready yet,” Trump asserted. “But they do want to make a deal. Sometimes they don’t want to say they want to make a deal, they want to be the tough guys, but they do want to make a deal.”
The president concluded the question by denying Russia and China are helping Iran, contradicting his own defense secretary’s assessment that they are enabling the country.”

Excerpt From
“Trump Says Iran Exit Strategy Is To Keep Doing The Same Thing We’re Doing”
Ryan Grenoble
HuffPost UK
https://apple.news/Avj47eZM6QDmW2VHSk0tO_w
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Trump Says Iran Exit Strategy Is To Keep Doing The Same Thing We’re Doing — HuffPost UK

Trump also claimed Iran wants to make a deal even though "they don't want to say" so.

https://apple.news/Avj47eZM6QDmW2VHSk0tO_w

BelleHathor · 24/07/2026 23:06

Unfortunately, Donald isn't mentally altogether.

Robert Barnes a former Trump lawyer and others have spoken about his mental decline and confabulation, a type of memory disruption that leads to inaccurate, distorted, or even fabricated memories(e.g. negotiating with an Iranian that wants a deal).

Sadly, watching the Military movement in the region, there will likely be a big maneuver against Iran in the next 72 hours and Iran will respond accordingly.

In terms of negotiations, Trump’s actions have closed that path. Looking at Iranians in Iran, they're increasingly carrying the red flag of revenge, they don't want to negotiate, even Pezeskhian was booed during Khamenei's funeral. Remember the revolution against the Shah was started by students, who also stormed the American embassy and took hostages.

There's that same air in Iran today especially in the young. By their actions (bombing schools, hospitals and infrastructure) all Trump and Netanyahu did was "prove" that the hardliners were right about the West being evil and ensured that any Iranian official that signs a deal right now would be in danger.