Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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“Israel’s defence minister says large-scale Palestinian migration from Gaza will go ahead”
Emma Graham-Harrison
The Guardian
https://apple.news/AnnlpJqlOTdW5cUbA9NEe1Q
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Yes it's an excellent article. Such an important conversation to have. We saw it with the Iranian protests. So many threads were filled up with slating "pro pallys" than actually discussing the issues at hand.

The conflicts in Sudan and other areas are being weaponised to start a narrative that the only reason people care about Palestine is to be antisemitic. Some people cannot imagine that mass slaughter and occupation is not something to be supported.

That's hyperbole and actually quite offensive to suggest that Some people cannot imagine that mass slaughter and occupation is not something to be supported.

I'm sure no one on MN supports mass slaughter, whether it's the slaughter of Israelis on 7/10/23 or Israel's awful response. I haven't seen one post that supports either, though of course people debate which side they hold more responsible: Hamas or the Israel government.

Very few people on here seem to support the illegal settlers in the West Bank either. Maybe one or two, I don't know.

So if people care about the current situation in Gaza and how the people there are being affected including the wider West Bank etc
People shouldn’t have a problem allowing a thread on it to run

In fact it would make more sense that threads such as this never run so far off topic
Alas !

Great logic apart from the fact that whether this thread stays on topic or not won't affect the people in Gaza one jot.

We are aware that things Britain and other many other countries in the UK sell arms to the UAE for use against people in Sudan. It get's ignored.

You said "If Britain knew that those weapons were specifically being bought by Germany in order to supply Israel they should absolutely block the sale." Maybe, this should also apply to weapons to be used in the Sudan?

The sale of weapons is an area of massive complication, which I wouldn't pretend to understand eg we are on the side of Ukraine and so sell them weapon used in a war that Russia started.

Diplomatic support I fully understand the UK supporting Israel in the right not to be wiped out. I understand that the UK don't support terrorist organisations and rightly condemmed the acts of Hamas. I understand why various poltical organisations including Palestine Action are proscribed.

I don't (I've said lots of times before) support the Israeli government in continuing it's actions. I want a full ceasefire on both sides. I want Hamas to disarm and to put it's own people first. I would like an election in Gaza to elect new government who might think about the people rather than use their own people. I also hope that Israel will elect new leadership when they have their next elections.

I disagree. I don't think that the only reason people support or care about Palestinians is due to antisemitism.

I do take action. I care about people from a range of nations. You may attempt to judge me but I can hold my head high and know what I do. I'm not answerable to you.

Try not to make assumptions about others, whom you know little of.

90% of the Gazan population is displaced, the entire population is being starved of appropriate aid, clean water, food and medical care. I'm not sure how the humanitirian crisia can get larger there tbh never mind 'much larger'?

My post didn’t say it would
That doesn’t mean respect for the situation can be shown and is evidenced by not derailing
Constant derails clearly show a lack of care

People on mumsnet come from all walks of life and may be affected personally by what is happening.
Personally I think that’s worth some respect and subject focus

It’s not much to expect a little compassion and courtesy

Rather than list a list of reasons why international aid agencies say that Sudan is the major humanitarian crisis, perhaps you could look up what is happening in Sudan. They don't receive anything near the same aid. Gazan get's billions (as is correct) and food is getting in so people aren't starving. For a range of reasons Sudan is categorised by international aid experts as the worst.

I personally despair of the situation in many countries and all countries should be help according to their level of need.

Why else do you think they care?

I personally despair of the situation in many countries and all countries should be help according to their level of need.

Yet here you are diverting a thread about the suffering of people in Gaza, I'm sure as you despair very much you will acknowledge that not starving to death is the very lowest bar and that the people of Gaza need far more help than they have been allowed to receive from Israel. We should all be making noise to ensure that that happens, especially when we are 'despairing' over it.

Oh stop with the emotive language, it's fooling no one.

Pretty much all the threads on this board are on sensitive subjects and you know full well how discussions twist and turn. You do it yourself on plenty of threads.

Yes - people on mumsnet come from all walks of life and may be affected personally by what is happening. That didn't stop posters giving Jewish people a hard time who used to post on this board, even when they mentioned being badly affected by the war or their children being affected. They were entitled to a little compassion and courtesy too, but got precious little. That's why you get no openly Jewish people posting on CITME board any more, in case you wondered.

food is getting in so people aren't starving

Can you link to evidence of this please?

Hardly anyone posts their religion on these threads
I don’t know who they are except for a few Irish but I don’t know what religion they are either
Why? because most people don’t see any reason to post it

I really don’t care what religion posters are either

This thread is about the situation in Gaza
And don’t tell me to stop saying anything that is within the focus of the thread title
We are not a dictatorship and you have no right to control my speech

"I fully understand the UK supporting Israel in the right not to be wiped out"????? Genocide can never be excused by calling it self defense. To quote Ronald Lamola, South Africa's Minister of International Relations - "No armed attack on a State’s territory no matter how serious, even an attack involving atrocity crimes, can provide any justification for, or defense to, breaches of the Genocide Convention, whether as a matter of law or morality." So once again, I object to my government using my money to support Israel.

There were members of the community giving their experiences of being a Jewish person whether living in Israel (sheltering in bomb shelters when the sirens went off) or the UK (them or their children facing antisemitism in UK society).

They've all stopped posting here now. Though I do see some around the site on other boards, obviously they felt unwelcome on CITME.

What are you on about, dictatorships? No one is controlling anyone's speech, you're being dramatic.

Why 5 question marks on a comment about the UK supporting Israel's right not to be wiped out?

Is it really such a shocking concept to you that the UK doesn't want to see Israel wiped out - as Hamas and their sponsors the IRGC would like to see?

"Food security in Gaza has improved since the ceasefire declared in October, pushing back famine conditions, but the situation remains critical with more than three-quarters of the population still facing acute hunger and malnutrition, a new UN-backed analysis has found." This is from the United Nations. They no longer have famine conditions. Hopefully, these will never return.

Food is getting in. I don't dispute their are lots of problems with distribution but food is getting in and the people are thankfully not starving.

"Throughout the war, Israel, the United Nations, humanitarian organizations, and independent experts have often reached different conclusions about Gaza's humanitarian situation.
In August 2025, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) concluded that famine conditions were present in parts of Gaza under its "reasonable evidence" methodology. Israeli officials strongly disputed those findings, arguing that key elements of the IPC assessment—particularly mortality estimates—relied on inference rather than sufficiently transparent data.

Since then, the humanitarian picture has changed considerably.
Following the October 2025 peace deal, humanitarian aid entering Gaza increased substantially. Israel argues that expanded food deliveries, declining market prices, improved water access, and increased medical assistance demonstrate that famine conditions have eased.

Humanitarian organizations generally agree that conditions improved following the ceasefire. However, they continue to warn that widespread destruction, displacement, damaged infrastructure, and ongoing distribution challenges leave many Palestinians vulnerable to severe food insecurity."

I merely pointed out that some countries have acute famine whilst food in entering Gaza. UNRWA are working hard to ensure that not only will Palestinians get food but also other aid as is correct.

I often wonder why people find it hard to accept that there are many peoples suffering from food insecurity or for some famine across the globe. There are many agencies/charities attempting to distribute aid across a large number of countries. I know some don't like to discuss the ongoing famine in other countries but sadly they exist.

You told me to Stop

please do not tell me to say or not say anything

Attempts at controlling or shutting down language is akin to
a dictatorship
Words are our own and we have the right to say or not say as we wish but
telling people to stop is shutting peoples voice down.

All quite obvious

I have Nothing more to say on this subject
because This thread is about Gaza

I asked for a link. Please link to the UN report you are quoting from.

I assumed she was referring 7th October. As horrendous as it was and it was, it was not an attempt to wipe out Israel. I'm not saying there aren't people in the area who would love to wipe out Israel and I'm sure you can count the Gazans amongst them but it is hardly like they have the ability to.

Why else. Gaza is in the news much more that other countries and so it is the one that some people that don't follow international news generally might follow. If you look at news coverage, some countries get a much higher coverage than others. People also keep Gaza in focus so that it is seen whereas so many people don't keep other countries in focus (as can be seen on mumsnet alone by the number of threads on Gaza and very few on Afganistan, Darfur, etc. etc. etc). Gaza is spotlighted by many celebrities who ignore other areas. Thankfully, some actually do raise the profile of problems elsewhere too.

The historical involvment of the British governing the area for a while after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War 1. This leads some people to go down the road of anything the British did was bad and so the problems of the area must be due to the British, completely ignoring the Ottoman empire and other wars in the area and what happened since.

The marches in Britain don't (in my opinion) help but do stir up hatred towards people here who are not and haven't been the reason for the probelms in the middle east.

White Saviours marching into to people's who are seen as always being victims. I'm sure some love this, look at me, I'm on the right side ...... never any deeper understanding of the history of the land and peoples. Just Gaza good and Israel bad. I'd loved to see Gaza govern itself with a proper government that wish to improve conditions rather than just continue conflict with one of it's neighbours for a lifetime and more. I'm sure the people are proud and strong and don't wish to be labbelled victims forever.

There may be other reasons too, underdog, or personal reasons, I cannot possibly know but do believe that the reasons are multifactural in nature.

I've read some very interesting articles over the years and I find the lack of understanding in the damage their own governance in Gaza has done to their own people, odd and yet all blame on Israel. ("In Gaza, the Commission identified 249 cases of executions and severe physical violence in 2024-2025, resulting in at least 108 deaths and 384 injured. The Commission found that Hamas-affiliated forces were involved in at least 60 of these incidents, including two public executions of 11 men. These acts amount to the war crimes of murder and torture, and abuses of international human rights and humanitarian law.
“The Commission is gravely alarmed by the severity and public nature of Hamas’ punitive measures in Gaza, which inflict profound trauma on an already severely traumatized civilian population,” said Muralidhar. “Any future framework for peace and stability in Gaza must include a clear and enforceable commitment to accountability.”) I think war crimes must be called out that have been committed by both Israel and committed by Hamas. Therefore, I don't do binary thinking and always comdemn Israelis and can see the damage done over the years by not agreeing to 2 states when it was on the table and seeing the future as being more important that continual hatred of neighbours of a different faith.

You could paste this post every time another poster attaches a link to an article that you disagree with, along with obligatory implicit accusations of anti semitism.

Are you suggesting that everyone who agrees with Barry Malone’s article has ‘‘ingrained bias against Jewish people’? You’ve gone around the houses a bit but that is the gist I’m getting.