Concerns about Israeli plans for Gaza and Palestinian displacement

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/28/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-military-70-percent-gaza-intl

Doesn’t look like there will be much land left for the Palestinians.

And in other news, from the Guardian:

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.
Israel Katz said the government would implement a plan for large numbers of Palestinians to leave Gaza “at the right time and in the right manner”, in a statement on Wednesday marking the targeted killing of Mohammed Odeh, Hamas’s most recent military commander.
Pushing for mass departures violates Donald Trump’s ceasefire plan for Gaza, which Israel signed last year. The second point of the plan states: “Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.”
Israel’s government has promoted the prospect of Gaza without Palestinians since Trump suggested early last year that hundreds of thousands of people should leave to “clean out” the strip for reconstruction.
Last year Israel set up a bureau for “voluntary emigration” and eased travel restrictions for Palestinians who wanted to make a one-way journey out of the strip.
The forced transfer of civilian populations is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Israeli officials, including Katz, use the term “voluntary migration” to describe their ”

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7 October. Biggest self own in history.

You’re justifying ethnic cleansing?

All for that 2 state solution then eh?

Ethnic cleansing for the purpose of stealing land and as blatantly as can be. The world cannot say that they did not see this coming. I wonder what the response will be from EU - predict futile ‘appalled’ mutterings from Westminster if anything at all. Disgraceful.

And so the plan comes together. Palestinians were never going to be let stay on their land.

This is just the final act in a long history of displacement and ethnic cleansing.

Nothing to do with October 7th.

All of them? Gosh, I have no idea. What would you suggest?

How about Israel stop trying to expand Israel and leave Palestine to the Palestinians? There’s a novel idea.

This whole chain of events was set in motion by 7 October. The world knows it.

70k + people would still be alive, their homes would be standing.

A future State for Palestinians has never been further away.

You absolve Hamas for their hand in this if you want. I do not absolve Israel. Their hand in this is it ever goes ahead will forever shame the nation. But the fact remains that this wouldn't be happening if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel that day.

It's the biggest self own in history.

How archaic.

The world knows it? Really?

Yes, and you know it too.

I'll never understand why a tiny minority of people here on mumsnet seek to absolve Hamas for the ruin they've bought upon their own.

Enjoy the rest of the thread!

They did that in 2005. Hamas built tunnels and weapons instead of building their economy. That decision didn't work out well for Israel as Oct 7th proved. I'm not sure what proportion of Palestinians want a 2 state solution rather than want to just kill all the Jews. They have been offered a 2 state solution multiple times and rejected them all.

It’s like a never ending circle. Read up on history and get back to me.

They dont want to discuss anything before Oct 7. Its like decades of oppression of the Palestinians didn't happen and Oct 7 happened out the blue.

October 7 didn't happen in a vacuum, I agree. The war on Gaza and subsequent displacements haven't happened in a vacuum either though have they? Unless only one side is free to be absolved of the consequences of their actions?

Does the oppression of Israel in Palestinian lives justify October 7th? No. We talk about before 7 October every day btw. Does October 7 justify cleansing Gaza of Palestinians? No. But these things happen as consequences of previous events. You take it back as far as you want. Sabra and Shatila? The Arab Revolt? Khaybar? Ishmael?

Every single person knows that Israel would not have leveled Gaza and murdered 70k Palestinians if Hamas hadn't commited 7 October. I'm not justifying anything. I'm simply saying it's one of the biggest self owns in history.

I’ve noticed on here that every atrocity inflicted on Palestinians is always - at some point, by someone - said to be justified by October 7th - it’s so brutal and intentionally diminishing to their suffering.

There can be no justification for genocide.

Two wrongs cannot make a right.

There can be no justification for genocide.
Or ethnic cleansing but it appears for some there is.

There were restrictions put in place to stop suicide bombers and other terrorists going into Israel and blowing people up in buses and restaurants. They were put in place because they needed to be by the other countries making, to keep Israelis safe. If Palestinians actually wanted peace they have had the chance many times. The literature found in schools doesn't exactly suggest they want peace. Now they're further than ever from having a 2 state solution and Israel isn't going anywhere. Teach children love, not hate. And I don't agree with any plans to de- populate Gaza btw, many people support Israel without being in agreement with all decisions the Israeli Govt. makes

“Israel’s defence minister has said he is committed to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza through large-scale migration of Palestinians as part of Israel’s long-term plans for the territory.’

@dairydebris Why are transferring this huge self own onto Oct 7th? You could engage with his words - his open intention to ethnically cleanse Palestine? That he feels able to spell out his intentions unchallenged?

Every single person knows that Israel would not have leveled Gaza and murdered 70k Palestinians if Hamas hadn't commited 7 October
I don't agree Israel have been trying to do this for decades. Oct 7th sped up the process.

I'm not justifying anything
If you say so...

Mmmm. I wonder if only Hamas would disarm and give up power whether that might help at all?

It's really odd how Palestinian agency is completely written out of so much 'pro Palestinian' discourse.

So Israel will ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip and steal the land.

Just as they’re ethnically cleansing the WB and stealing that land too.

And then southern Lebanon too, perhaps beyond.

This doesn’t come as a surprise anymore. This is what this Israeli government is now known for.

The world knows it

I bet if you went upto 100 random people on this planet and asked the question;
“How justified do you think Netanyahu and his government are with their actions, and do you approve of them?”… you would find exactly what the world knows about what’s going on.

Palestinian agency
What agency? Fgs you seem to have zero idea about the reality in Gaza or the West Bank.