Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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I bought it up purely to illustrate that the words "best and final offer" or "final and best offer" are used routinely in negotiations and shouldn't be taken too literally.

Alexandra then took a huge leap of logic to accuse me of thinking "that Vance and co are involved in the equivalent of buying a house???"

I feel for all of you. He is raving lunatic who will destroy every opportunity to agree until he is satisfied financially, at the cost of thousands of lives and job losses around the globe.
This is about Israel, oil and money.
Two big bully bastards.
If anything, Trump will be exposed then Benny will lose his grip. Israel will be in the worst unsafest position ever.

Do you mean a 25th amendment removal of Trump, which would leave you with JD Vance as president?

The world economy will be in tatters if this takes years.

You know all about huge leaps.

Trump caused this shit show and now realises there is no way out.

Which is exactly why I expected them to stay in Pakistan for longer than a day. 20 hours of talks is very little given the stakes.

And Obama had John Kerry.

Tucker Carlson was on the BBC this morning.

Between all the waffle he was saying that Trump went in with no idea what he was doing and now he can't get out.

Which is exactly why every other president avoided this mess.
Closing SoH was a predictable response.

That's clearly correct!

Yes.

Marjorie Taylor Green is also talking sense on this

I never thought we would be agreeing them

Trump is wishing he could resurrect Kissinger because he's facing a Vietnam of his own making now.

I don't think the US went into these negotiations in good faith. They would not have sent Trump's SIL, who is most interested in doing $$$ deals with Arabs and protecting Bibi and has no background as a negotiator, and Witkoff's, Trumps property lawyer, also with no experience as a negotiator. During the last set of negotiations, this pair behaved atrociously.
Personally, I think that this 'negotation' was just a delaying tactic, while the US builds up troops in the area.

It is a truly great shame for the world that there is no 'out' at present.

There is a way out if he wasn’t so pig headed. Take no ownership of the waterway, apologise for bombing the country, murdering citizens and walking away.

Yes, potentially, but far, far worse because Vietnam did not control a huge percentage of the world oil, gas, fertiliser, sulphuric acid exports. The impact of the loss or a huge reduction in these things is so immense that it is hard for us modern creatures, who are using to getting what we want when we want it, to grasp.

It is a truly great shame for the world that there is no 'out' at present.

Of course there is.

Well see where Rubio was while Vance was announcing failure:

"Secretary of State Marco Rubio was shown on the big screen at the UFC fight in Miami, Florida moments after Vice President JD Vance announced that no deal had been reached with Iran.
Rubio is at the fight with President Donald Trump. Reporters traveling with Trump and Rubio observed the two smiling and enjoying the action." (CNN)

Yup, Trump was there too. Photo attached.

I agree with both your comments. She's been speaking sense for some time.
Trump is only interested in sycophants though.

What is the 'out' @SerendipityJane? I'm talking about now, not a potential settlement at some stage in the future.

Speaking of defectors, have you seen Amanda Ungaro. Former friend of Melania, ex h (friend of Trump) for ICE to deport her to Brazil in a custody battle. Seems she has all the info on Epstein and wants to talk.

And am also agreeing with MTG (or more importantly she is agreeing with us!)

Nero really did fiddle while Rome burned.

Thank you! This made me laugh, as in my youth I was in awe of K's big brain.

I meant for him without losing face, but yes there are ways out.