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Conflict in the Middle East

Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 06/04/2026 00:32

He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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Twiglets1 · 08/04/2026 21:54

Stirabout · 08/04/2026 21:31

Not killing civilians
Not bombing a Christian town with no links to Hezbollah
Not dropping hundreds of bombs without any warning … a today Israeli tactic

Recognising Palestine
Stopping the control of the area
Getting out of Lebanon
Israel signs the treaty of non proliferation
For starters

@Ellen2shoes posted a great solution
upthread

Definately worth a read

None of that would stop Hezbollah or Hamas from wanting to destroy Israel, unfortunately.

At least Iran are being transparent for once that Hezbollah are linked to them. Normally they prefer to distance themselves from their terrorist proxy groups.

Boolabus · 08/04/2026 22:14

Twiglets1 · 08/04/2026 21:54

None of that would stop Hezbollah or Hamas from wanting to destroy Israel, unfortunately.

At least Iran are being transparent for once that Hezbollah are linked to them. Normally they prefer to distance themselves from their terrorist proxy groups.

Well bombing, displacing and killing innocent civilians is not achieving much either just more war crimes, death and destruction. What a legacy for Netanyahu, history will not be kind to him.

sidebirds · 08/04/2026 22:39

DuncinToffee · 08/04/2026 13:18

Have you read Iran's 10 point peace plan?

Quite the Art of the Deal.

Remember that 5 weeks ago the Strait of Hormuz was open.

I am not sure who you think is using an escape route to save face

President Trump's strategy is clear ✝️

DuncinToffee · 08/04/2026 22:41

sidebirds · 08/04/2026 22:39

President Trump's strategy is clear ✝️

Please tell us what it is then

And what is with the cross?

Efacsen · 08/04/2026 22:50

Nearly 1500 Lebanese killed or maimed in a few hours

IDF can be very clever in targeting when they choose to - maybe a bit more of that - more hands blown off by exploding pagers, more drone strikes instead of missiles/bombs, more patience

As for the command and control nodes - that's not a new story either we've seen how poky they can be in Gaza

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/04/2026 22:55

Twiglets1 · 08/04/2026 19:24

Trump was there and Katherine Leavitt speaks for Trump.

She is his press secretary.

KL speaks for Trump.

Not sure what your point is here @Twiglets1. We all know KL speaks for Trump, it's her job. She's his mouthpiece.🤷‍♀️.

We also know Trump talks shit and tells lies.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 08/04/2026 23:05

Stirabout · 08/04/2026 19:33

It’s all about the land grab by Israel. Same with Gaza
that and killing anyone in their way
A Christian town yesterday with no Hezbollah link

Unfortunately you're right @Stirabout.Sad

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TooBigForMyBoots · 08/04/2026 23:07

sidebirds · 08/04/2026 22:39

President Trump's strategy is clear ✝️

What is it?

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Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 00:11

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/04/2026 22:55

KL speaks for Trump.

Not sure what your point is here @Twiglets1. We all know KL speaks for Trump, it's her job. She's his mouthpiece.🤷‍♀️.

We also know Trump talks shit and tells lies.

Is it that hard to follow?

I was responding to a poster who said KL wasn’t there (at the negotiations) whereas the Pakistan negotiator was.

So I replied that she speaks for Trump, who was there.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/04/2026 00:20

Oh sorry, I thought you were saying that because KL said something, it must be true.Thanks

I agree with you, KL knows nothing, she's just Trump's mouthpiece. It's her job to say whatever he wants.

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Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 00:27

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/04/2026 00:20

Oh sorry, I thought you were saying that because KL said something, it must be true.Thanks

I agree with you, KL knows nothing, she's just Trump's mouthpiece. It's her job to say whatever he wants.

No problem.

RedTagAlan · 09/04/2026 01:55

KatiePricesKnickers · 08/04/2026 21:23

And your peaceful solution to the Hezbollah problem would be?

Two state solution.

KatiePricesKnickers · 09/04/2026 06:34

RedTagAlan · 09/04/2026 01:55

Two state solution.

Lebanon is a separate country, still full of terrorists, as was Gaza.
This isn’t about the Palestinians having their own state (they had Gaza) it’s about the Islamists wanting to kill all the Jews.

Giving Palestinians their own state isn’t going to resolve that fundamental issue.

RedTagAlan · 09/04/2026 06:38

KatiePricesKnickers · 09/04/2026 06:34

Lebanon is a separate country, still full of terrorists, as was Gaza.
This isn’t about the Palestinians having their own state (they had Gaza) it’s about the Islamists wanting to kill all the Jews.

Giving Palestinians their own state isn’t going to resolve that fundamental issue.

That is the fundamental issue.

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 07:23

DuncinToffee · 08/04/2026 21:50

Don't watch the news and whatabout WWII ?

You seem absolutely fine with Israel killing innocent men, women and children.

You and others do not seem to understand that civilians are killed in conflicts, it isn't 'absolutely fine' no but it is a sad consequence of a conflict. I helpfully gave you an example of ww2 to show this happens but do please Google any warzone and you will find civilian casualties.

Stop firing missiles at Israel would be my top tip to hezbollah.

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 07:28

'The land grab' Confused

It is about terrorists targeting Israel.

NotTerfNorCis · 09/04/2026 07:49

Every violent action committed by Israel, whether murdering civilians in Lebanon or driving people off their land in the West Bank, only makes Israel's situation worse.

logicisall · 09/04/2026 08:02

I see that the Pakistani Ambassador to the US has confirmed in a CNN interview, that Lebanon is part of the ceasefire deal. An oil market researcher Rory Johnston has wittily named it “Schrödinger’s ceasefire.” I'm with Rory on that.

So to get back to answering @TooBigForMyBoots' question, I think that there's little Trump can do if he doesn't have a time machine can't get Israel to comply with the terms of the ceasefire or get Iran to take it off the table.

It's never too late to pull a Vietnam.

logicisall · 09/04/2026 08:07

I've just joined the thread and haven't read it all, but I'm intrigued by the mysteriousness of
President Trump's strategy is clear ✝️
Please put me out of my misery @sidebirds and elucidate.

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 08:12

Trump cannot resolve this fuck up, thats like expecting the arsonist to rebuild the burnt out forest.

All that can happen now (the best case) is an uneasy ceasefire, with many breaches, a stronger Iran and zero chance for the Iranian peoples.

Theolittle · 09/04/2026 08:21

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 07:28

'The land grab' Confused

It is about terrorists targeting Israel.

You know that the Nazis called the French Resistance terrorists. All Israel are doing with their illegal war is creating more terrorists for the future, by killing thousands of innocent civilians

And yes this is a land grab.

RedTagAlan · 09/04/2026 08:26

Alexandra2001 · 09/04/2026 08:12

Trump cannot resolve this fuck up, thats like expecting the arsonist to rebuild the burnt out forest.

All that can happen now (the best case) is an uneasy ceasefire, with many breaches, a stronger Iran and zero chance for the Iranian peoples.

Agree. And I think the "them and us" in threads is that the "US" know Trump is a total empty headed fuckwit that can't see beyond his own wallet. and the "them" are the folk that still think he is some sort of 5D chess genius.

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:30

Theolittle · 09/04/2026 08:21

You know that the Nazis called the French Resistance terrorists. All Israel are doing with their illegal war is creating more terrorists for the future, by killing thousands of innocent civilians

And yes this is a land grab.

Really? Did defeating the Nazis create more German terrorists for the future?

Theolittle · 09/04/2026 08:37

Twiglets1 · 09/04/2026 08:30

Really? Did defeating the Nazis create more German terrorists for the future?

I am making the point that historically states label their enemies as terrorists. It doesn’t mean the states are on the “right” side.

The French resistance “terrorism” stopped because nazi occupation ended- their job was done.

Gloriia · 09/04/2026 08:42

Theolittle · 09/04/2026 08:21

You know that the Nazis called the French Resistance terrorists. All Israel are doing with their illegal war is creating more terrorists for the future, by killing thousands of innocent civilians

And yes this is a land grab.

'The nazis'. I'm sorry any reference to WW2 has been decreed whataboutery by a pp but as you've brought them up I think it's safe to say anything the nazis had to say should not be repeated to back up one's argument.

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