Trump is desperate. How can he resolve the Iran shitshow?

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He is flailing, desperate and increasingly unhinged. Weakening the USA, alienating allies and strengthening the enemies of democracy with every step.

How can he fix this?
Can he fix it at all?

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Israel’s job will be done when terrorists stop trying to destroy them.

Looking at the IRGC and their proxies like Hezbollah & Hamas.

I am making the point that historically states label their enemies as “terrorists”. It doesn’t mean the states are on the “right” side.

250 innocent civilians bombed to death in the centre of Beirut yesterday. Bombs dropped during rush hour to maximise death I think it's clear who the terrorists are.

But you don't always win with guns and certainly not by bombing thousands and thousands of civilians to smithereens. Gaza still has Hamas, Lebanon still has Hezbollah, the leaders of Iran have been replaced with those considered as more extreme than those they killed. Has any of these wars for Israel, despite their abundance of weapons and defence, led to a single decisive victory for Netanyahu? No.

Israel has no moral standing when they carry out such atrocities.

Israel's ministers are calling Lebanon, Gaza 2.0

And the images of Lebanon do not contradict that.

Which is why Israel did not want Lebanon included in the ceasefire deal, they're only getting started. Listening to a Lebanese journalist last night in the bbc talking about the chaos and death in her city it boils your blood. Once again complete disproportionate response, 1.2 million people displaced in south Lebanon, bombs dropping on Beirut and people think they can justify it!

Israeli aircraft reportedly sprayed glyphosate over border farmlands in southern Lebanon & Syria’s Quneitra in Jan–Feb ‘26. Lebanese tests & UNIFIL samples found concentrations 20–30x above normal, killing crops.

Israel said it is to deny militants cover.

UN warned of humanitarian/environmental harm

If correct this is 100% war crime and morally shocking. Haven’t seen anything in the news about this. I’ve heard before that Israel kept Palestinians in a food deficit for many years before the current conflict and used food as a weapon (plus not allowing aid on during the conflict).

I saw that reported at the time. Basically agent orange.

I am seriously wondering if it is Netanyahu's intention to have the entire region turn against Israel. To kick of the war to end all wars. Any benefit of doubt against that premise is quickly evaporating from my mind.

Nelson Mandela was also called a terrorist

Personally my yardstick is those on the side of of peace and freedom.

Who wants to allow people to live freely

Not hamass, Hezbollah ,the irg and so on

They could of course give up the game and surrender

That's an option !

Going right back to the attack on Israel in October apparently there had been very good tentative relatione between Palestine and Israel and more Palestinians were able to cross over a d work etc. hamass couldn't accept this and attacked.

Their business and livelihood is in conflict and destruction.

Personally whilst I understand Israel's response I wish they had gone about it in a different way
I feel education and opening up of Comms would have helped more. I feel what they have done is simply enlist tomorrows haters.

But we are where we are and that is because these death cults want power chaos and war and to destroy Israel
And the west

I can’t change your views if you fail to acknowledge that the IRGC, Hamas & Hezbollah are the proscribed terrorists, in most of the Western world.

Israel civilians are safer with Hamas being weakened & Hezbollah too - that will be a victory in the eyes of their leaders.

Never said they weren't terrorists I absolutely know they are. I'm just pointing out that in my view they aren't the only ones terrorising and killing innocent civilians, displacing millions and committing war crimes.

Many people think everyone should be safe no matter where they come from, so killing and displacing tens of thousands of innocent civilians is not ethical. It may be considered a victory with the Israeli leadership but hopefully their illegal actions will lead to their arrest and war crimes conviction no matter how long that may take.

What views do you want to change? That Israel is justified in destroying Lebanon as they did Gaza?

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/02/09/lebanon-condemns-israeli-glyphosate-attack-in-country-s-south_6750310_4.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgez359nd72o

In my view they would also be safer if they addressed the fundamental issue of why they are against them. And no, I don't mean making the state of Isreal vanish. I mean a two state solution. Isreal has a right to exist, and so does a state a Palestine.

The world has changed a fair bit over the decades. And now most Arab states recognize Israel, of sorts. They do want peace at least. Just a few core groups left resisting with violence. Maybe Israel does have to give a little to get them over the line?

As a PP mentioned earlier, Pakistan does not officially recognize Israel. Yet here we are, Pakistan are mediating. Pakistan has nukes and is not nuking Israel.

Over a million displaced in Lebanon now. And it is really stupid. The IDF warns people to evac a Beirut suburb. Then they bomb it. For why ? Hizbollah will just evac too.

Beirut reels from a growing displacement crisis as war rages | AP News

Agree that everyone should be safe. We rely on our governments to keep us safe.

Iran badly let their citizens down. Not only do they brutally put down protesters, they also place their citizens in danger via their violence to other nations, mainly but not exclusively towards Israel.

Israel citizens would be highly vulnerable to attack if they didn’t divert so much money into defence - the Iron Dome etc.

Its not Israel’s fault that other countries are aggressive yet don’t spend enough on defence to offer any kind of protection to their citizens.

I am not keen on this "it creates more terrorists" either. I don't think that is a universal rule.

However, re the Nazis, I would argue that the root cause of their extremism was removed: their leaders. And there was a program of de-Nazification. There are still Nazis today. And they do pose a terror attack risk. A very real one.

But in the mid east, the root cause is Palestine. So removing the leaders does not solve that. The root cause remains as a rallying cry for new leaders.

And of course, there is no equivalent program of de-Nazification in. Netanyahu appears to work on the idea of destroy and kill, not re-education.

@Boolabus it's not possible for every country in the world to keep their citizens safe, no.

But it is possible for the IRGC who have all the money in the world for offensive actions, not just within Iran but also to fund other terrorists in other countries such as Gaza and Lebanon.

@RedTagAlan these terrorists are wicked for hiding out and using humans as a shield.
There is a different view on the sanctity of life

However I also can't understand why they bomb like that when as you say the terrorists will also just evacuate.

And the people have said we can't just evacuate we have no where to go.

I knew someone would trot out the line, "there are still Nazis today" - sorry it had to be you as we have been seeing more eye to eye recently.

Yes there are - but in small numbers compared to Nazi Germany in WW2. So it is true to say that destroying the Nazis did not lead to Germany becoming a country full of Nazis. Germany is a country that is now a good ally to the UK and to Israel (but I think almost every country has extremists amongst them, including the UK, unfortunately).