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Conflict in the Middle East

Trumps senior counter terrorism officer resigns due to the war with Iran and has said they only went to war because of Israeli pressure, not because of any imminent threat from Iran.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 15:49

If that is really the case will this not be very damning for Trump? How will he respond to this?

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Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 19:19

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 19:12

Discussing the truth as the wheels come off Trump's administration does not mean people agree with the wonky wheels he employed in the first place. No one apart from Trump and MAGA have got into bed with a white supremacist like @dairydebris said.🙄

Trump has no plan for Iran, he doesn't even have a realistic plan for this war. That's why his messaging changes with the wind. He's fucked the ME, he's fucked global trade, he's fucked peace/stability and he's fucked America.

This is, as @JaneFondue said WMD2. Only this time, we are staying out.

Look at some of the comments at the start of this thread ... people rushing to identify with him (knowing nothing about his background) just because he criticised Trump. He is being praised not just on this thread, but others too.

"thank you Joe"
"Brave guy!"

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 19:21

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 19:12

Discussing the truth as the wheels come off Trump's administration does not mean people agree with the wonky wheels he employed in the first place. No one apart from Trump and MAGA have got into bed with a white supremacist like @dairydebris said.🙄

Trump has no plan for Iran, he doesn't even have a realistic plan for this war. That's why his messaging changes with the wind. He's fucked the ME, he's fucked global trade, he's fucked peace/stability and he's fucked America.

This is, as @JaneFondue said WMD2. Only this time, we are staying out.

If the IRGC stay where will they be in five to ten years and what would you do?

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 19:23

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 19:12

Discussing the truth as the wheels come off Trump's administration does not mean people agree with the wonky wheels he employed in the first place. No one apart from Trump and MAGA have got into bed with a white supremacist like @dairydebris said.🙄

Trump has no plan for Iran, he doesn't even have a realistic plan for this war. That's why his messaging changes with the wind. He's fucked the ME, he's fucked global trade, he's fucked peace/stability and he's fucked America.

This is, as @JaneFondue said WMD2. Only this time, we are staying out.

Well I suggest we 'discuss truth' by avoiding quoting a liar extraordinaire who has sold his principles if he ever had any in supporting Trump and his many, many untruths.

I don't disagree that Trump has fucked many things but the regime in Iran can take as much credit as Trump for fucking the ME.

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 19:31

Of course I am going to say "Thank you Joe," because unlike this new breed of "Not quite MAGA" who've only recently started to support Trump due to his support for Israel and as a way to protect Israel, I've known about Joe Kent for years and have listened to him advocate for Veterans and no more foreign wars, this is not a new position for him. That's why I knew about his late wife, I have heard him interviewed on MAGA channels that reach grassroots Americans back in 2021 and followed his election attempt.

I know veterans of these endless American wars, he is speaking for them, the poor folk who can only attend College/University by joining the military.

But please continue, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin and MIGAs are doing so much to destroy support for Israel by grassroots Americans and in other countries that they will be thanked in the future.

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 19:39

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 19:31

Of course I am going to say "Thank you Joe," because unlike this new breed of "Not quite MAGA" who've only recently started to support Trump due to his support for Israel and as a way to protect Israel, I've known about Joe Kent for years and have listened to him advocate for Veterans and no more foreign wars, this is not a new position for him. That's why I knew about his late wife, I have heard him interviewed on MAGA channels that reach grassroots Americans back in 2021 and followed his election attempt.

I know veterans of these endless American wars, he is speaking for them, the poor folk who can only attend College/University by joining the military.

But please continue, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin and MIGAs are doing so much to destroy support for Israel by grassroots Americans and in other countries that they will be thanked in the future.

Kent, a long-time supporter of Trump's who unsuccessfully ran for Congress twice, was nominated by the president early in his administration and narrowly confirmed to his post, with many Democrats criticising his links to extremist groups including members of the Proud Boys.

In the confirmation hearing, Kent also refused to back away from claims that federal agents had fomented the January 6 riots at the US Capitol or that Trump had won the 2020 election.

Previously, Kent had deployed 11 times overseas with the US military, including with the US Army's special forces in Iraq.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g66r3z40o

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 19:57

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 19:31

Of course I am going to say "Thank you Joe," because unlike this new breed of "Not quite MAGA" who've only recently started to support Trump due to his support for Israel and as a way to protect Israel, I've known about Joe Kent for years and have listened to him advocate for Veterans and no more foreign wars, this is not a new position for him. That's why I knew about his late wife, I have heard him interviewed on MAGA channels that reach grassroots Americans back in 2021 and followed his election attempt.

I know veterans of these endless American wars, he is speaking for them, the poor folk who can only attend College/University by joining the military.

But please continue, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin and MIGAs are doing so much to destroy support for Israel by grassroots Americans and in other countries that they will be thanked in the future.

The absolute gymnastics! This has absolutely made my evening Belle thankyou 😂

Namingbaba · 17/03/2026 20:01

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 17:43

How will they find any when all Iran's nuclear capabilities were "obliterated" by the USA and Israel last June?🤔

Its WMD all over again.

I think the worry is the enriched uranium could still be useable even though it’s likely buried in rubble. I’m not sure what they plan to do about it as trying to access it would surely require ground crews.

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:07

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 19:57

The absolute gymnastics! This has absolutely made my evening Belle thankyou 😂

My pleasure dairy, glad I could make you laugh.

I am having quite a jovial evening watching the MIGAs blowing their casket over Joe Kent, a beautiful sight, unfortunately the tired old tropes don't seem to be working, poor Alan Dershowitz having his Epstein connections called out again.

EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 20:09

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:07

My pleasure dairy, glad I could make you laugh.

I am having quite a jovial evening watching the MIGAs blowing their casket over Joe Kent, a beautiful sight, unfortunately the tired old tropes don't seem to be working, poor Alan Dershowitz having his Epstein connections called out again.

People are silly like this. The IRGC aren’t on the side of those who get this enjoyment either.

Twiglets1 · 17/03/2026 20:11

Namingbaba · 17/03/2026 20:01

I think the worry is the enriched uranium could still be useable even though it’s likely buried in rubble. I’m not sure what they plan to do about it as trying to access it would surely require ground crews.

US, Israel weigh sending special forces into Iran - Axios

The United States and Israel have held discussions about deploying special operations forces into Iran to secure the country’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium, Axios reported Sunday, citing four sources familiar with the talks.

Administration officials emphasized that any operation would differ significantly from large-scale military deployments. “Small special ops raids — not a big force going in,” one source explained. “People think Fallujah. That’s not what has been discussed.”

The mission would likely occur only after both nations are confident Iran’s military no longer poses a serious threat to forces on the ground. At a congressional briefing, Secretary of State Marco Rubio addressed whether Iran’s uranium would be secured: “People are going to have to go and get it.”

Officials are weighing two options: removing the material from Iran entirely or bringing in nuclear experts to dilute it on-site. The operation would likely involve special operators alongside scientists, possibly from the International Atomic Energy Agency.

U.S.-Israeli strikes last June buried Iran’s uranium stockpile under rubble and destroyed nearly all centrifuges. Most of the material sits in underground tunnels at Isfahan, with the remainder split between Fordow and Natanz.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-israel-weigh-sending-special-forces-into-iran-axios/ar-AA1XLbzh

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 20:12

Namingbaba · 17/03/2026 20:01

I think the worry is the enriched uranium could still be useable even though it’s likely buried in rubble. I’m not sure what they plan to do about it as trying to access it would surely require ground crews.

The only way to get rid of it is to move it (if they can find it all) or dilute it. Both require troops.

BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 20:18

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 20:12

The only way to get rid of it is to move it (if they can find it all) or dilute it. Both require troops.

I think i read that Putin said he would take it if it ends the war? Or was that prior to the war i can't remember. I wouldn't trust him but Trump i feel secretly admires him.

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BerthaPotts · 17/03/2026 20:19

If it's under the rubble might be too late for that.

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Realitycheck1 · 17/03/2026 20:27

@Twiglets1 interesting ,the last I read was that spy teams were trying to find it.
I don't envy those two options taking it out or having scientist get to it..

I was reading earlier how the regime keeps fighting back without the head.
It was trained to and It was trained to do exaclty this having looked at weakness in the west before.

PixelDrift · 17/03/2026 20:36

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BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:55

Like I said before, the old tropes and accusations no longer work. It's boring. Take your issue's up with Candace's so called "antisemitism" with her.

Enrico Tarrio of the Proud boys is Afro Cuban aka Black, he is also a former FBI informant, who was suspected by MAGA of setting up the J6ers.

Of course "New MAGA" wouldn't know that as they've only just jumped on the bandwagon and are trying to take it over (pathetically), though I am loving watching the mental gymnastics calling out a "white supremacist" in support of President Trump who 2 days ago said disparaging remarks about Iranian DNA.

Trumps senior counter terrorism officer resigns due to the war with Iran and has said they only went to war because of Israeli pressure, not because of any imminent threat from Iran.
EasternStandard · 17/03/2026 21:04

BelleHathor · 17/03/2026 20:55

Like I said before, the old tropes and accusations no longer work. It's boring. Take your issue's up with Candace's so called "antisemitism" with her.

Enrico Tarrio of the Proud boys is Afro Cuban aka Black, he is also a former FBI informant, who was suspected by MAGA of setting up the J6ers.

Of course "New MAGA" wouldn't know that as they've only just jumped on the bandwagon and are trying to take it over (pathetically), though I am loving watching the mental gymnastics calling out a "white supremacist" in support of President Trump who 2 days ago said disparaging remarks about Iranian DNA.

You do sound like you’re enjoying it with the loving it stuff. What do you hope the outcome is?

PixelDrift · 17/03/2026 21:07

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Silence1 · 17/03/2026 21:49

Joe Kent is spelling out what many already know I said on here, maybe 18 mths ago, that this is what the Israel Govt wanted and here we are. I said the Israel Govt was a threat to world peace and stability and also here we are - interest rates going up, heating oil doubling and diesel prices rising. Stock markets shaky and missiles ahoy.
They and now Trump painting it as saving the world. I thought they did it months ago when they supposedly destroyed Iran's nuclear capability.
Beautiful Lebanon being bombed with threats to level it like Gaza, Turkey being threatened, West Bank annexed and Gaza....
To the poster who said Syria was nothing to do with Israel , don't be ridiculous. Israel wants no stability there either.
What a fuck up. Let's hope Starmer sticks to his guns.

twentyeightfishinthepond · 17/03/2026 22:13

The suspicious thing is that the guy was supported by Carlson Tucker, who is apparently a fan of the extreme far right. That has me wondering what’s going on there.

Silence1 · 17/03/2026 22:24

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2026 18:37

I’ll confess I haven’t read anything from Rubio.

Im rather suspicious of anyone suggesting the war is wholly Israel’s fault though. George Soros style conspiracies.

Would you be? Israel's flawed intelligence on WMD in Iraq? Is that a wild conspiracy theory? Did Israel not want the US to go into Iraq?
Deliberate or accident?

TooBigForMyBoots · 17/03/2026 23:18

dairydebris · 17/03/2026 19:23

Well I suggest we 'discuss truth' by avoiding quoting a liar extraordinaire who has sold his principles if he ever had any in supporting Trump and his many, many untruths.

I don't disagree that Trump has fucked many things but the regime in Iran can take as much credit as Trump for fucking the ME.

a liar extrordinaire?

AFAIK, Joe Kent hasnt made any secret about his far right, racist, antisemitic, Proud Boy, Trump beliefs. It was those very "attributes"🙄 got him the job that Donald Trump gave him, that he just resigned from, in the first place.🤷‍♀️

The liar extrordinaire here is Trump himself. He hasn't just fucked the Middle East, he's fucked the USA and the whole world.

Russia and North Korea are experiencing benefits though. So that's something I suppose.🙄

user112256479 · 17/03/2026 23:34

Yeah, there's nothing honourable going on here. It's a split between the captured by Israel neocons who are still loitering around and the racist, anti-semitic, white nationalist loons as they square up to fight for the hearts and souls of the MAGAs.

Both sides can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned.

Ihatetomatoes · 17/03/2026 23:39

Realitycheck1 · 17/03/2026 17:33

@Notonthestairs I'm not a military strategist I'm an arm chair commentator so feel free to cast aside my comments
What I'm reading is that joint spy teams are in Iran now looking for uranium sites .
One site at least Israel would need several hours to blow up one site.

Bombing any infrastructure around nuke building would be the obvious ones but hard to achieve if buried in mountains

They are checking out the sites.

TooBigForMyBoots · 18/03/2026 00:15

Ihatetomatoes · 17/03/2026 23:39

They are checking out the sites.

Who are checking what sites?

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