Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

Trump must fancy himself as some sort of Poker player, keeping everyone on their toes, also from today:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-iran-ground-troop-preparations/#

Might not be for Iran, might instead be for Lebanon to help the IDF against Hezbollah.

Who knows with Trump?

At the same time as he talks about ending the war, thousands of US marines are closing in on the ME & expected to arrive next week, raising the prospect of an amphibious assault on Iranian soil.

In addition, Trumps top spokeswoman told the Telegraph last night that he is considering putting American troops on the ground in Iran.

The Pentagon has drawn up plans that could involve seizing Kharg Island.

“Jaunt” ?

Trump is referring to his NATO allies of which the UK is one but there are many others.

Can you name them these days ?

I see Argentina said they are willing to assist.

It's easy enough for you to google the members of NATO.

They are the "allies" that Trump is referring to to answer the question posed which was: Who are America's allies, in this?

The US has no NATO allies, Trump has blown all that away.

He went into this war without consultation, with no fore warning, no plan, no idea of the consequences and should he be stupid enough to attack Iran's oil facilities, then Iran will attack its neighbours oil/gas ones too.

£2 a litre petrol? try £5 or £6 and rationing.... our economies will grind to a halt..... with a 1930s style depression.

Yup. I can just imagine the discussions in the Danish Ministry of Defence :

" Trump want's us to send our navy to the Gulf. But Trump has also said he might invade our territory, Is it possible Trump will invade us while our Navy is away fighting his war ? "

Ahh. You mean the cowards, as Trump described them ?

I was answering the question asked by another poster about who Trump is referring to by the word "allies".

Of course, some allies are proving more helpful to Trump than others.

The UK is now allowing the US to use UK bases to strike Strait of Hormuz targets. Other NATO allies may or may not also start doing more.

Time will tell about what Parliament will say about the UK bases.

That aside, allowing US planes to use UK bases is not the naval armada that Trump claimed was on it's way. And erm, the truth attached below has the line " WE DO NOT NEED THE HELP OF ANYONE !"

So what is it ? Help, no help, help not wanted ? And in this same TRUTH he implies says Iran is pretty much defeated.

I am finding what Trump says is very confusing.

Yep this^

The UK allowing Trump to use our bases is stupid, he is sucking us into a war we don't want, making us even more of a target for the Iranians, ensuring further conflict and all will be forgotten with his next lot of ramblings....

I don't think it has yet dawned on some people, let alone our Govt, how bad this could get.... for zero gain.

Trump is insane, no one should be helping him at all.

So we need to sort that and get our energy grid on top condition. We are not using enough wave power. And why can we not store extra energy as hydrogen? Then free it when is needed. For example.

He is playing his game again.
Saying he is thinking of winding down, while getting more marines on their way.
Insulting his ex-allies, just for fun. Saying he will leave us to "guard it", I think he means to clean up this mess. Bless the diplomats that face this one! Toughest job in the world!
There is some noise in the Guardian this morning about Diego Garcia been targetted with two Iranian missiles. No hit. Said by unconfirmed US sources. UK silent, so far. He is playing at misinformation. That is what they are doing. Let's sit on our hands and wait to confirm the truth.

The UK allowing the US to use UK bases to target Iranian missile sites targeting international commercial shipping is based on a joint statement by the UK, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Japan, Canada, Republic of Korea, New Zealand, Denmark, Latvia, Slovenia, Estonia, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Czechia, Romania, Bahrain and Lithuania.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-from-the-leaders-of-the-united-kingdom-france-germany-italy-the-netherlands-and-japan-on-the-strait-of-hormuz-19-march-2026

UK government statement
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-on-the-conflict-in-the-middle-east-20-march-2026

Trump would have forgotten about the troops he ordered back from Japan.

Should he invade any part of Iran, they will retaliate with more strikes on their neighbours gas and oil fields...

The best we can hope for is the next guy doesn't miss.

I do not think he is forgetting or has dementia. Though as speakers go, he is shite and has the vocabulary of a 7 year old.
I think he is very cunning.
But he is scared of putting boots on Iran, because he has been told what will happen. He will still do it. He will not miss on his "greatest force that the world has ever seen" lines.

Literally everyone finds Trump confusing.

I do agree with @MushMonster though that he is is cunning which does not suggest dementia. I think he has street smarts rather than being conventionally "intelligent". He's certainly not academic!

But retaliating with more strikes on their neighbours just creates more enemies that Iran didn't have before the war.

It comes across like they have lost the plot, like if the UK started attacking their neighbours all across Europe and blowing things up.

What "friends" did Iran have before?

Russia. China too I think

I didn't say they had friends before, I said retaliating with more strikes on their neighbours just creates more enemies that Iran didn't have before the war.

'Punish Iran': Saudi Arabia and UAE inch closer to supporting US-Israeli war
The kingdom has given the US wider access to new bases, but experts say joining offensive operations opens 'can of worms'

“There is a divide emerging in the Gulf,” Bernard Haykel, a professor of Near Eastern studies at Princeton University, who speaks with the Saudi Arabian crown prince, told MEE.

“Saudi Arabia and the UAE were neutral before this war. But as they have been attacked, they have come to the realisation that they cannot live with this hardline Iranian regime next door, which can, at a moment’s notice, extort the region by closing the Strait of Hormuz,” he added.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-and-uae-inch-closer-to-us-israeli-war-on-iran

Saudi Arabia reserves right to take military action against Iran, foreign minister says

Saudi Arabia has not ruled out military action in response to repeated missile and drone attacks from Iran, Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan said on Thursday.

Speaking to reporters following a meeting in Riyadh of foreign ministers from the region, Prince Faisal said that Iran “tries to pressure its neighbors” with attacks.

“The kingdom is not going to succumb to pressure, and on the contrary, this pressure will backfire… and certainly, as we have stated quite clearly, we have reserved the right to take military actions if deemed necessary,” he said.

Saudi Arabia reported more Iranian attacks on Wednesday, as the foreign minister hosted his counterparts from about a dozen Arab and Islamic countries for talks on the fallout from the Middle East war.

The Saudi foreign minister condemned the repeated “targeting of civilian sites” across the Gulf, dismissing Iran’s justification that it was targeting US interests in the region as “weak.”

“Neither Saudi Arabia nor the Gulf states would accept… blackmail, and escalation will be met with escalation,” he said.

A joint statement from the foreign ministers’ meeting in Riyadh condemned “the deliberate use of ballistic missiles and drones targeting residential areas and civilian infrastructure, including oil facilities, desalination plants, airports, residential facilities and diplomatic missions”.

The ministers “affirmed that such attacks cannot be justified under any circumstances and reiterated the right of states to defend themselves”, the statement added, calling on Iran to “immediately cease its attacks” and de-escalate tensions.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi-arabia-reserves-right-to-take-military-action-against-iran-foreign-minister-says/

Yes, there is a divide of opinion. Oman and Qatar have called for the war to end and the Omani foreign minister has been quite strident about it in the Economist.