Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

I feel like I have heard Hegseth saying that already in the recent past...
Escalate escalate escalate escalate

This quote is from today's presser but it could easily been from earlier ones.

Indeed. He has been saying quite the same for days. Everytime, the conflict gets worst for us, rather than any better. I am afraid to look at the price of fuel...

Again, Trump has said that the war will be over soon.
Netanyahu is hinting at the need of boots on the ground. Trump said that he is not intending to do so, but we would not tell if he did.
So we do not know. Does anyone know where the Tripoli is by now?
I think Trump wants to call it a day and pack up. But I think Israel wants to keep going. I doubt these two can stick together if their goals differ enough. I do not see any of them been able to compromise, at all.
It feels a bit like the quietness before the big storm.

"Trump is studying plans to occupy or lay siege to Iran’s oil facility Kharg Island in an attempt to pressure the regime to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, Axios reports."

But Trump has also claimed that the oil facilities were destroyed

When the 10 Year Yield approaches 5% the U-Turns usually happen, problem here is that there are various drivers, Iran is now using the S of H to hold the world economy to ransom, and SKY news etc. are bleating about the effects on mortgage rates and the cost of energy, our addiction to debt and oil makes us very weak.

I thought the claim was that only military infrastructure was destroyed?

Last Saturday, Trump told NBC that the Iranian oil facility was ‘totally demolished’ but that the US may continue to bomb it ‘just for fun’

The "fun" stops when the 10 Year Yield hits 5%, Iran know this and will be pressing that lever hard.

The UK 10-year gilt yield just struck 4.929%

Thanks Trump and those who support him.

Yields were going up anyway, Japan is telegraphing loud and clear to the markets that they intend to raise interest rates, that alone is massive for bond markets/mortgage rates.

Same

He says a lot of stuff, does not he? I am surprised that the journalists are not invited to ALL his meetings!
As far as I know, they destroyed miiitary capacity in the area, the island and any land defences I suppose, but not the oil depos. They threatened with go for the infraestructure, but I think they contained themselves. Went to South Pars instead?

COL crisis 2.0 is going to hurt.
And, not only to those with already a big debt. We do not have a big debt at all, only our mortgage, which is small, and we will already feel any rise in prices.
Wages may go up, but until they catch up, if they ever do, then it will be a tough patch.
US is not doing that well financially either. Their prices are quite high too. That will put a lot of pressure on Trump. Specially if he gets boots on the ground and it goes on for long. And it is likely to go on for long long long time.
So, we shall get some canned food and all, just in case.

The war in Iran could trigger a global food shock
https://www.ft.com/content/10543c28-de10-4119-8a2c-8a264dce6539

But this conflict with Iran could encourage the big oil companies to invest in Venezuelan oil refinery. Trump was disappointed that they weren't keen to do so, but this war may change that stance. This war is about oil.

Yeah, they may get bullied into it. Trump is not stupid, he is actually rather intelligent and I would not be surprised if he is getting profits out of this.
I thought it would be by the increased price of oil in the markets, plus a bit of extra profit per barrel. That will give them capital to invest. I think they need 100 or 200 billions to invest in Venezuela infrastructure. Of course, better the world pays for it than the rich corporations....
But pushing them towards it by removing other sites from action had not cross my mind....
There is always the risk factor left by Trump way of doing things. They could invest that much just to be thrown out of the country by a revolt. I imagine they are worried about that. There is not really that much inside into how the average Venezuelan is feeling about all this.

Big oil has refineries for VZ oil on the gulf coast. They set them up for VZ oil but then Chavez happened. So they switched to Canadian sand tar and built the pipelines. When Trump "took over" VZ, the oil companies said no thanks because still cheaper to pipe it from Canada. I think only Chevron is using VZ. Because they kept using it. Just not much.

But yes, high price will make it worth the investment to get it out of the VZ ground, but even then, they want security assurances.

I agree with you. It is about oil. And gas.

Apparently he has called the other NATO countries cowards, again.
Because they are not helping with Hormuz... but we do not need them... but they are all cowards....
He is all upset because both Greenland and the borders with Russia are covered and he cannot distract Europe.
Will he still pounce on Cuba?

Re Greenland. This was in the news today.

Denmark sent explosives to blow up Greenland runways amid Trump invasion threat | World News | Sky News

Remember. Denmark is (was) such a close military partner to the US that they have F35. And yet they had to prepare for that lunatic in the WH invading them.

I am not surprised. I thought they had stationed soldiers there too. Is that right? Not only for an exercise, but they stay.
Trump has quickly enough become more of an enemy than a flipping ally.
Not even calling any other NATO country to have a chat about starting a war with Iran has put him where he is. He really should not throw his toys out of the pram about it.
If he cannot get what he wants out of us this way, he will suffocate us financially.
I wish we were more advanced on changing to renewables energies than we are. It will make us much more independant. And we really need to push that manufacturing sector back to tip toe condition or we will not be able to buy even a spoon internationally! The more we can make here, the better.

Unfortunately you can't have more renewable energy and more manufacturing at the same time.

Renewable energy is intermittent, needs more grid connections and still needs gas fired back up to cover the winter on non windy evenings and nights. This gas fired back then needs to be paid for during the time it is sat idle on sunny windy summer days.

As for battery storage, it's can only store 2 hours worth of electricity. If you tried to run the UK just on all the existing battery storage it would cover about 3 minutes of demand.

Lastly renewable energy still needs billions of Government subsidies to be economic.

All this means is that the UK has one of the highest electricity prices in the world, so manufacturing simply moves abroad.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/feb/22/high-energy-prices-threaten-uks-status-as-manufacturing-power-business-groups-say

The situation is dire.

- Russia - currently making $150 million extra a day from the price increases. Projected to rise to over $200 million a day.

• During an interview with Scott Bessant the American Treasury secretary said they were considering unsanctioning Iranian oil currently at sea.

-Sanctions on Belarus fertiliser could be lifted.

• Qatar and other GCC countries invoking Force Majeure (contractual clause freeing parties from liability when an extraordinary, unforeseeable event beyond their control prevents performance of obligations) and cancelling contracts.

• China and other countries stoping the export of Oil, Fertiliser and other things.

Sounds like he's now planning to withdraw, and leave America's allies to cope with the mess he created. BBC News - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce84073mr06t
Iran war latest: Trump says US considering winding down war but other nations must guard Hormuz - BBC News