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Conflict in the Middle East

Thousands of bodies seen from space pictures

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Ihatetomatoes · 29/10/2025 10:03

Very disturbing

"BODIES AND BLOOD Piles of bodies and rivers of blood can be seen from space after thousands massacred in brutal Sudan killings
Experts say over 2,000 civilians were killed during the Rapid Support Forces’ seizure of El Fasher"

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SomeoneSomewheree · 30/10/2025 09:43

I do think it would be good to move this thread or even have another one like this on one of the main boards. Some posters have posted some useful links to help understand the history of the conflict better which would have a wider reach elsewhere. I have been trying to read each one posted on here.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:44

HarlequinHare · 30/10/2025 09:29

Who are you agreeing with here? You're the only one who had posted before this post.

There was a post before this and I agreed with it. It's no longer there. I believe that when someone completely deletes their account posts go since several years ago I left completely and when I returned my posts weren't showing. Please check with MN, I'm really not going mad talking to myself. However, reading these awful stories of mass killing doesn't help.

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MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 09:45

Good points, @SomeoneSomewheree . I read the BBC news website background information, which was really useful, but some of these links have been very informative, thanks to those posters.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:49

SomeoneSomewheree · 30/10/2025 09:43

I do think it would be good to move this thread or even have another one like this on one of the main boards. Some posters have posted some useful links to help understand the history of the conflict better which would have a wider reach elsewhere. I have been trying to read each one posted on here.

I posted it here because Sudan is now considered part of the Middle East.

The Middle East and North Africa (MENA), also referred to as West Asia and North Africa (WANA) or South West Asia and North Africa (SWANA), is a geographic region which comprises the Middle East (also called West Asia) and North Africa together.

Therefore, I posted here. Also, I noted many on the main boards chose MN for light relief and complain when stories such of this are posted on main boards and moved.

I could start a new one there to see, but leave this here for the people who are interested since its an ongoing conflict in the middle east.

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Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 09:54

I have just started a new thread on main board to raise awareness as suggested. It may get reported and moved though?

@someoneSomewhere

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SomeoneSomewheree · 30/10/2025 10:05

Thanks il see if I can find it

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 10:23

@Ihatetomatoes thise articles are great but not the one I am referring to. I have however found the resource that I was looking for.

So, https://decolonizesudan.org/publications is a women-led collective of Sudanese/Americans educating people on what’s happening there so forgive me not exactly journalists per se but nevertheless activists.

The website is great for information and of course I urge everyone to always cross reference with other news sources to check accuracy etc.

This same organisation has made a video which is also an article but I will post the video. It’s on YouTube and a great watch to educate anyone on what’s happening.

Publications

https://decolonizesudan.org/publications

Ovalframes · 30/10/2025 10:30

Nobody is marching for those women and children.
One can only speculate on the reason why.

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 10:38

Ovalframes · 30/10/2025 10:30

Nobody is marching for those women and children.
One can only speculate on the reason why.

I’m trying my best not to respond to people like you so as to not de rail this thread but the marches are justified so stop using this thread to point score. Start asking questions that will actually keep the focus on Sudan rather than take it away.

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 10:41

That's bad news about the feeding sites, I'm glad Liam Neeson is publicising this. It just shows the impact of stopping aid.

Martymcfly24 · 30/10/2025 10:45

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 10:41

That's bad news about the feeding sites, I'm glad Liam Neeson is publicising this. It just shows the impact of stopping aid.

Agree just compounds a horrendous situation.
3 children are dying every day in El Fasher from malnutrition.

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 10:51

Martymcfly24 · 30/10/2025 10:45

Agree just compounds a horrendous situation.
3 children are dying every day in El Fasher from malnutrition.

So, famine as well.

Martymcfly24 · 30/10/2025 10:52

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 10:51

So, famine as well.

Well over the thresholds at this stage.

Absolutely horrendous.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/10/2025 10:57

Martymcfly24 · 30/10/2025 10:45

Agree just compounds a horrendous situation.
3 children are dying every day in El Fasher from malnutrition.

Absolutely shocking, the media control is disgusting, most people would be up in arms with the situation, most people aren't aware.
I have been following the conflict in Congo.
This needs to be highlighted around the world.

ginasevern · 30/10/2025 11:03

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 10:38

I’m trying my best not to respond to people like you so as to not de rail this thread but the marches are justified so stop using this thread to point score. Start asking questions that will actually keep the focus on Sudan rather than take it away.

@Ovalframes asked a perfectly valid question.

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 11:09

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/10/2025 10:57

Absolutely shocking, the media control is disgusting, most people would be up in arms with the situation, most people aren't aware.
I have been following the conflict in Congo.
This needs to be highlighted around the world.

I agree 👍

EmeraldShamrock000 · 30/10/2025 11:14

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 10:38

I’m trying my best not to respond to people like you so as to not de rail this thread but the marches are justified so stop using this thread to point score. Start asking questions that will actually keep the focus on Sudan rather than take it away.

I agree, try not respond as certain posters won't accept that the media controls the masses, if the media highlighted the atrocities in Sudan or Congo people would protest.
The media created a divide and conquer by filtering the media around the conflict between Israel/Gaza.
No-one is going to be arrested for speaking out against the devastation in Congo or Sudan, no one will lose their job, unlike the other conflict controlled by the police and media.
Small snowballs make large igloos with enough traction.

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 12:21

ginasevern · 30/10/2025 11:03

@Ovalframes asked a perfectly valid question.

No she didn’t. If you want to discuss why some atrocities get more attention than others, then start a thread on it and invite intellectual dialogue. Don’t use one cause to undermine another.

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 12:25

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 10:51

So, famine as well.

Famine in a country that has vast amounts of agricultural land that could easily feed the people. There is another article which I will find if I can it talks about how the UAE is trying to control Sudan’s agricultural land to pursue its own food security.

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/10/2025 12:27

imapeucetoothbrush · 29/10/2025 21:37

I would disagree.

IMO it's a case of "no Jews, no news"

I studied African politics decades ago, with some of the finest minds in the world. Travelled as much as I could as well. Africa suffered with compassion fatigue before any other region. You are simply wrong. And to make racism, colonialism and the conflict in Sudan a point-scoring exercise about anti—semitism beautifully illustrates my point that Africans don’t matter to westerners.

Horrifically, people see famine, genocide and war in Africa, and they think ‘more of the same’. Seeing a democracy (people like us) engage in genocide is more shocking to them.

Africans and Africa are seen as ‘other’, foreign and distant. I encourage people to go. Travel around, meet people. There are so many wonderful places and fantastic people. Probably the most beautiful places in the world are in Africa. It’s not Ebola and AK47s. It’s a million other things. And read some books about the history.

MonetsLilac · 30/10/2025 12:29

BluntPlumHam · 30/10/2025 12:25

Famine in a country that has vast amounts of agricultural land that could easily feed the people. There is another article which I will find if I can it talks about how the UAE is trying to control Sudan’s agricultural land to pursue its own food security.

Yes, this is a man made famine.

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 13:42

Martymcfly24 · 30/10/2025 10:39

@Ihatetomatoes

You are right about the change in policy for funding on your pp. Liam Neeson visiting here saying 200 feed sites shut down due to reduction in foreign aid funding
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2025/1027/1540751-neeson-condemns-aid-cuts-after-visiting-south-sudan/

I am glad high profile individuals like Liam are raising this. When enough people are disgusted something 'might' be done to help.

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Moglet4 · 30/10/2025 13:59

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/10/2025 14:08

Not humans. Men. If the victims are mostly female and the perpetrators are almost all men, it's not humans.

And funded by shady bastard men in other places. Africa has been a playground for proxy wars for far too long.

True. It’s sickening but sadly not actually surprising.

SomeWomanSomewhere · 30/10/2025 14:24

Ihatetomatoes · 30/10/2025 13:42

I am glad high profile individuals like Liam are raising this. When enough people are disgusted something 'might' be done to help.

While I agree that it is (or would be) a good thing for him to raise this doesn't actually appear to be about the current situation in Sudan but about South Sudan, specifically Juba.

While not that widely recognised yet, South Sudan functions as a separate state with Juba as its capital and is not actually about the atrocities in the Darfur region of Sudan.

All Eyes on El Fasher!

(Still a good thing for him to raise awareness of the impact aid cuts have in Juba, too).