Can the ceasefire hold?

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Hamas has only returned 9 out of the 28 bodies it agreed to return as part of the ceasefire agreement. The Israel government has threatened to reduce the promised aid supplies to Gaza in retaliation. Hamas have announced that it can't find the bodies of any more Israelis hostages, which has made some people question the future of the ceasefire.

Israel’s defence minister threatened on Wednesday to resume fighting if Hamas does not honour the continuing terms of the deal. On a more optimistic note however, the BBC reports that in a call with reporters last night, senior US advisers were downplaying the risk. The advisers said there was "understanding" to get all the live hostages, which Hamas did "honour".

We have a "mechanism in place", and are working with mediators to get as many bodies "as possible" out, they explained and, "We continue to hear from them that they intend to honour the deal."

Hamas says that specialist equipment will be required to find and retrieve the bodies of the other hostages and they are working with other countries to achieve this. Turkey, for example is in talks to send experts on body retrieval.

The BBC states that According to those advisers, the US government does not so far believe Hamas has broken the agreement by not yet retrieving the remains of remaining deceased hostages.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckgzndpnjl1t

I don’t know what you mean by justified. They walked towards the soldiers not the other way around so hypotheticals are pointless.

If Palestinians shot the IDF I expect all hell would break loose again. So far they are keeping busy shooting each other though.

So it's ok for Israeli's to kill Palestinians but not the other way round?

If Israeli civilians walked up to a group of Hamas militants & Hamas said back off & they didn’t, they would get killed too.

And Hamas would be considered to have breached the ceasefire. But when the IDF do it, all fine. The hypocrisy hurts so much.

Hamas need to stop killing Palestinians though IF they want the ceasefire to hold

President Donald Trump issued a clear warning about the violence on Thursday.
"If Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the Deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he posted on Truth Social.
Asked at a press gathering whether he meant that U.S. troops could be involved, Trump said, "It's not gonna be us. We won't have to. There are people very close, very nearby that will go in. They'll do the trick very easily but under our auspices."

Obviously they shouldn't be killing civilians. That's completely wrong.

It doesn't breach the cease fire though.

In the same way, the increase in arrests seen in the west bank and assaults on Palestinians there, in the last week is wrong. But it's not Israel breaching the ceasefire.

Don’t feel pain for a made up scenario 🙄

@Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice ‘It doesn't breach the cease fire though.’

Not disarming, not ceding power is though.

Trump said they could, to deal with the gangs (funded by Netenyahu). They have agreement to keep them for now and then there'll be a handover process initiated. That's in phase 2 of the plan and that hasn't started yet as the board is peace is still being negotiated between countries.

And in the meantime Hamas are taking full advantage dragging people out on the streets and putting a bullet in their heads.,are you seriously that deluded/brainwashed?

I didn't say it was ok. Trump did, and yes he's deluded. It didn't break the ceasefire though, which is what we are discussing, whereas Israel killing 24 people and reducing aid again does.

The ceasefire is still in effect though? It’s holding atm and hopefully the next part will happen soon

So what you are saying is that the IDF behaves just like Hamas, a terrorist organisation?

The ceasefire is still in effect in the sense that they aren’t killing and bombing at the same level. But Israel are arming militia, bombing and shooting in Gaza and rounding up prisoners that they released as part of the agreement. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Hamas were shooting Israelis, bombing Israel and rounding up recently released hostages we would all be absolutely horrified and say “what savages”.

No, for one thing they don’t kill their own.

@KoalaKoKo ’But Israel are arming militia, bombing and shooting in Gaza and rounding up prisoners that they released as part of the agreement.’

I haven’t seen any reports of bombing, nor reports that the IDF are recapturing, especially as they are not allowed into areas of Gaza.

So post your evidence.

No mention of the public executions by Hamas? That’s been picked up in the press and being discussed.

The ceasefire does still hold, despite posts saying otherwise. Here’s hoping it does and they get to the next stage.

i cannot see any evidence of the things you say. You seem to be trying to stir up unrest.

it appears that certain people are unhappy with the ceasefire as the war was suiting certain groups narratives a and probably why it was caused in the first place. Clue Israel is neither the “certain people” nor “certain group” in this scenario.

I suspect certain groups are now worried about actual investigations into some of the narratives coming out about the war. The starving children seem to have disappeared. Hamas are so worried about Palestinians they’re dragging them out into the street and putting a bullet in their head..There is. Zero chance Hamas are going to relinquish power. They are using it to regroup and rearm. Expect another attack on Israel (or its supporters)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8g9p0ppe0o

I know this was in the West Bank not the Gaza Strip but how are things going to move forward towards a permanent ceasefire when the IDF are shooting ten year olds dead.in Palestine.

Did you read to the end of the article where a Palestinian threw an explosive device at soldiers?

That was a separate incident not the ten year old boy a few days ago

They accused the boy of throwing rocks (which is denied)which is why he was shot in the pelvis while playing football in a school yard.

Yes I'm aware of that, I read the article.

I don't know why the risk to peace (not the ceasefire which is Gaza not WB) is being put at the door of Israel alone when Palestinians are throwing explosive devices at soldiers? Can you not see how a cycle of violence perpetuates if sometimes palestinians throw rocks, but sometimes explosives? Obviously children should not be shot at but you seem to expect Istaeli soldiers to tolerate a high level of risk.

Well yes they are an Occupying Army who have chosen to subjugate the population in this way so the level of risk is due to their presence in the area by choice.

I agree a cycle of violence is unacceptable just like throwing explosives is.

Shooting dead an unarmed ten year old though, no army in the world would be able to stand by that.

No army would tolerate having explosives thrown at them. How do they know what is being thrown until after its been thrown? You seem to be conveniently ignoring longstanding terrorist activity coming out of the West Bank with the aim of killing Israelis so the narrative of occupation and subjugation of poor innocent Palestinians is pretty simplistic isn't it?

Ok fair enough.

I just think shooting ten year olds dead is wrong.