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Why are Palestinians tortured in Israeli prisons?

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Leftisrightisleft · 15/10/2025 08:56

We have heard time and time again from detained Palestinians once they are freed, about the extensive torture and abuse they faced at the hands of Israeli prisons guards.

Is this legal in Israel? Is that why nothing is done about it?

Source:

https://news.sky.com/story/freed-palestinian-prisoner-alleges-torture-and-deaths-in-israeli-detention-13450233

Freed Palestinian prisoner alleges torture and deaths in Israeli detention

Akram al Basyouni, who spent nearly two years in custody, tells Sky News that prisoners were beaten "so savagely our ribs were shattered".

https://news.sky.com/story/freed-palestinian-prisoner-alleges-torture-and-deaths-in-israeli-detention-13450233

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Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:18

'What the Flotilla participants experienced in their short time incarcerated is nothing '

Exactly. They reckon they were beaten but greta was there grinning in a tshirt not a mark on her. Which is good, I'm not advocating beating these peope. I bet the IDF mocked them and humiliated them for their silly flotilla but they clearly were not physically harmed.

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 09:27

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:18

'What the Flotilla participants experienced in their short time incarcerated is nothing '

Exactly. They reckon they were beaten but greta was there grinning in a tshirt not a mark on her. Which is good, I'm not advocating beating these peope. I bet the IDF mocked them and humiliated them for their silly flotilla but they clearly were not physically harmed.

Greta said she would not speak of her time in prison because she wanted the focus on the cause
ie getting aid into Gaza and raising awareness
Not because they sat her down to tea and cakes

Flotilla participants have declared similar mistreatments to the Palestinians
intimidation with dogs
intimidation with guns
caged in large groups
shackled for hours
food and water denied
loud music

We should never ignore this inhumane treatment

HellsBalls · 17/10/2025 09:34

@DrPrunesqualer ’We should never ignore this inhumane treatment’

By ‘we’ you mean pro-pallies. The rest of the world has forgotten about the futile flotilla.
Not a word in the media this week.

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:35

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 09:27

Greta said she would not speak of her time in prison because she wanted the focus on the cause
ie getting aid into Gaza and raising awareness
Not because they sat her down to tea and cakes

Flotilla participants have declared similar mistreatments to the Palestinians
intimidation with dogs
intimidation with guns
caged in large groups
shackled for hours
food and water denied
loud music

We should never ignore this inhumane treatment

The flotilla people said a lot of things tbh I'd take it all with a pinch of salt. Their 'intimidation by guns' probably involed arm guards being present, ditto dogs.
I mean 'caged in large groups', what? Did they expect a single room with an ensuite and a coffee machine?

For all their foolhardy exploits they seem a very thin skinned lot.

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 09:40

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:35

The flotilla people said a lot of things tbh I'd take it all with a pinch of salt. Their 'intimidation by guns' probably involed arm guards being present, ditto dogs.
I mean 'caged in large groups', what? Did they expect a single room with an ensuite and a coffee machine?

For all their foolhardy exploits they seem a very thin skinned lot.

None of this is acceptable Ever
Once we accept this sort of mistreatment in the name of Israel we dehumanise people
Looking away does not change reality

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:50

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 09:40

None of this is acceptable Ever
Once we accept this sort of mistreatment in the name of Israel we dehumanise people
Looking away does not change reality

Alleged mistreatment, 'being intimidated by dogs' or 'held in large groups' is not mistreatment and is open to interpretation. This is a privileged group who have probably never experienced a days hardship. Well apart from Ridley who snuck into Afghanistan to get abducted but said the taliban were quite nice really <probably because the were Islamic>.

quantumbutterfly · 17/10/2025 09:53

Gloriia · 17/10/2025 09:50

Alleged mistreatment, 'being intimidated by dogs' or 'held in large groups' is not mistreatment and is open to interpretation. This is a privileged group who have probably never experienced a days hardship. Well apart from Ridley who snuck into Afghanistan to get abducted but said the taliban were quite nice really <probably because the were Islamic>.

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Oh yeah I've heard that about them, nice boys, kind to their mothers. Motherlovers.....or something like that.

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 10:43

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 08:57

BBC report 2024 on Palestinians from Israeli Author, Lucy Williamson & BBC Eye Investigations
Role, BBC News
21 May 2024

“Medical workers in Israel have told the BBC that Palestinian detainees from Gaza are routinely kept shackled to hospital beds, blindfolded, sometimes naked, and forced to wear nappies – a practice one medic said amounted to “torture”.

A whistle-blower detailed how procedures in one military hospital were “routinely” carried out without painkillers, causing “an unacceptable amount of pain” to detainees.

Another whistle-blower said painkillers were used “selectively” and “in a very limited way” during an invasive medical procedure on a Gazan detainee in a public hospital.
He also said critically ill patients being held in makeshift military facilities were being denied proper treatment because of a reluctance by public hospitals to transfer and treat them.

One detainee, taken from Gaza for questioning by the Israeli army and later released, told the BBC his leg had to be amputated because he was denied treatment for an infected wound.

A senior doctor working inside the military hospital at the centre of the allegations denied that any amputations were the direct result of conditions there, but described the shackles and other restraints used by guards as “dehumanisation”.

The Israeli army said detainees at the facility were treated “appropriately and carefully”.

The two whistle-blowers the BBC spoke to were both in positions to assess the medical treatment of detainees. Both asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of the issue among their colleagues.

Their accounts are supported by a report, published in February by Physicians for Human Rights in Israel, which said that Israel’s civilian and military prisons had become “an apparatus of retribution and revenge” and that detainees’ human rights were being violated - in particular their right to health.”

( This is only part of the article )

There is no denying the sprawling treatment of Palestinians in Israeli jails
What the Flotilla participants experienced in their short time incarcerated is nothing compared to this inhumane treatment

Completely - there is also this report by CNN of the torture of Palestinians in Israeli prisoners - several Israeli’s who work within the prisons gave their accounts. Truly horrific.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

Israeli whistleblowers detail horror of shadowy detention facility for Palestinians | CNN

At a military base that now doubles as a detention center in Israel’s Negev desert, an Israeli working at the facility snapped two photographs of a scene that he says continues to haunt him.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

DrPrunesqualer · 17/10/2025 18:45

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 10:43

Completely - there is also this report by CNN of the torture of Palestinians in Israeli prisoners - several Israeli’s who work within the prisons gave their accounts. Truly horrific.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

Those accounts tally with others we have been hearing of for quite some time now

The torture, neglect and humiliation of Palestinian detainees over many years has become the norm.
Even with photos and eye witness accounts from news agencies they deny or make excuses.
There is no excuse and clearly there is no point denying it

PotatoesandOatsforlife · 17/10/2025 22:28

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 10:43

Completely - there is also this report by CNN of the torture of Palestinians in Israeli prisoners - several Israeli’s who work within the prisons gave their accounts. Truly horrific.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

Gosh, that's a tough read 😔
The whistleblowers are brave.
The IDF are evil though. As bad as Hamas. The Israeli authorities must have known the truth would get out. Are they on a mission to make the whole world hate them?! Even if they don't care about Palestinians, you'd think they'd care about global opinion? Odd they don't.

TicklishMauveSquid · 17/10/2025 23:51

KoalaKoKo · 17/10/2025 10:43

Completely - there is also this report by CNN of the torture of Palestinians in Israeli prisoners - several Israeli’s who work within the prisons gave their accounts. Truly horrific.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

Anonymous ‘Israelis’?

How very convenient.

Surprising anyone get out these prisons alive.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 18/10/2025 00:17

-So ex prisoners say they were abused in prison.

  • Medical staff say prisoners are abused whilst recieving medical treatment.
  • ex prison officers say they are abused
  • medical examination says they are often abused
  • since 7/10, 75 Palestinians have died in Israeli custody. Research from B'Tselem shows that 2/3rds are due to medical neglect, 1/4 to direct abuse or violence. Only 1/10 due to natural causes.
  • there is video evidence of abuse and rape.
  • we can see the poor condition of detainees upon release.
  • The Israeli government knows all the above and does nothing.

It's hard to see what stronger evidence there could possibly be for Israel mistreating Palestinian prisoners.

Dagda · 18/10/2025 00:57

@PotatoesandOatsforlife the world won’t tolerate starving maimed children, as Netanyahu stated himself. But I don’t think it much cares about torture in prisons unfortunately. It’s been well documented for years.

But no I don’t think the Israeli government care about international opinion.

DrPrunesqualer · 18/10/2025 01:12

TicklishMauveSquid · 17/10/2025 23:51

Anonymous ‘Israelis’?

How very convenient.

Surprising anyone get out these prisons alive.

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The United Nations
The question of Palestine

“ At least 75 Palestinians have died in Israeli detention since 7 October 2023 – UN Human Rights in Occupied Palestinian Territory

17 September 2025
Israeli authorities must urgently end the systematic torture and other ill-treatment of Palestinians held in their prisons and other places of detention and protect and ensure their right to life.

Israeli authorities have deliberately imposed conditions of detention that amount to torture or other forms of ill-treatment and that have contributed to the deaths of detainees, while the culture of impunity and the denial of International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) access have predictably fostered extreme violence against Palestinians in Israeli jails.

Israeli authorities must immediately comply with the 7 September Israeli High Court of Justice decision ordering the State to improve the quantity and quality of food provided to Palestinian prisoners. The court confirmed that the conditions deliberately imposed by Israeli authorities fail to meet basic nutritional standards. The decision, however, is too late to save thousands of Palestinians from ill-treatment. Furthermore, the authorities have publicly refused to comply with the order.

The Israeli authorities have also reportedly attempted to conceal reports prepared by the Public Defender’s Office regarding the treatment of Palestinian detainees and their conditions, citing national security concerns.

Between 7 October 2023 and 31 August 2025, at least 75 Palestinians, including a 17-year-old child, have died in Israeli detention (49 from Gaza, 24 from the West Bank and 2 Palestinian citizens of Israel), according to the UN Human Rights office in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

Israeli authorities have released information indicating the death of another 19 detainees, without sufficient details to enable the verification of their identity. In addition, at least 5 Palestinians, one of them a 16-year-old child, have died while in Israeli custody shortly after being shot by Israeli security forces, in some cases following a failure to ensure prompt medical attention after the unlawful use of lethal force.

Of the 75 deaths in detention, at least 22 detainees reportedly had health conditions requiring medical attention prior to their arrest, raising concerns that the denial of such medical care coupled with harsh detention conditions may have been calculated to contribute to their deaths.

In at least 12 cases, we gathered testimonies or evidence in the form of autopsy reports that detainees died after being beaten or tortured by Israeli security forces.

We have documented the systematic torture and ill-treatment to which Israel has subjected Palestinian prisoners, including repeated beatings, waterboarding, stress positions, the use of rape and other sexual and gender-based violence and the imposition of deliberately inhumane conditions such as starvation and the denial of clean clothes, hygiene necessities and medical care.

Despite numerous calls for independent, thorough and transparent investigations, the only way to establish responsibilities and ensure accountability, the Israeli authorities have announced investigations into very few of the deaths, with no outcome known to date. Unless rebutted by investigations respecting international standards for each incident, Israel remains responsible for every single death in custody.

Meanwhile, Israeli authorities have subverted internationally recognised protections against torture, especially access to lawyers, family, and the ICRC, against the failure of Israeli courts to enforce the rights of prisoners. Israeli authorities continue to ban family visits and have imposed restrictions on lawyers’ access to detainees, subjecting interviews to surveillance, and prohibiting lawyers from sharing messages from their families.

Torture and other ill-treatment forms are a serious violation of international humanitarian law, and of international human rights law.
They amount to war crimes and may, in certain circumstances, amount to a crime against humanity.

Israel has the obligation to end all practices that amount to torture or other ill-treatment, and to protect all detainees against such practices, including by ensuring prisoners have regular access to their families, their lawyers, the courts and that independent bodies such as the ICRC conduct regular inspections of places of detention.

Israel must protect and respect the right to life of all prisoners, and must provide access to adequate medical care, including to ensure that prisoners do not die from preexisting conditions.”

Thankfully the world is well aware of the disgusting treatment by Israel of Palestinians in jail
Thankfully they don’t listen to those who deny the truth

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Clavinova · 18/10/2025 12:05

Everexpanding · 16/10/2025 10:07

“Doctors at Nasser hospital in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, which received the Palestinian bodies from the ICRC, said on Wednesday there was substantial evidence of beatings and summary executions, and that none of the bodies were identifiable.

“Almost all of them had been blindfolded, and had been bound up and they had gunshots between the eyes. Almost all of them had been executed,” said Dr Ahmed al-Farra, the head of Nasser hospital’s paediatric department”

“There were also scars and discoloured patches of skin showing they had been beaten before being killed. There were also signs that their bodies had been abused after they were killed.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

Why am I not surprised to see that this claim has come from Dr Ahmed al-Farra of Nasser Hospital.

This is the same doctor who tricked the Guardian, ITV and others back in April, claiming that he had examined the bodies of the dead men in the ambulance controversy - despite being a paediatric doctor. Now he claims to have seen the bodies of more adult males. This is what he told the Guardian back in April;

Dr Ahmed al-Farra, a senior doctor at the Nasser medical complex in Khan Younis, witnessed the arrival of some of the remains.
“I was able to see three bodies when they were transferred to the Nasser hospital. They had bullets in their chest and head. They were executed. They had their hands tied,’’ Farra said. “They tied them so they were unable to move and then they killed them.”
He provided photographs he said he had taken of one of the dead on arrival at the hospital. The pictures show a hand at the end of a long-sleeved black shirt with a black cord knotted around the wrist.

The photographs were later debunked by Sky News - as being ID tags/body identification cards - the type used by emergency workers;

The tie appears only on one limb, however, and sources at Red Cross and Civil Defence told us that the white tag appears to be of the kind used by emergency workers in Gaza to identify bodies.

In addition, I've noticed that Dr Ahmed al-Farra has lied on at least two occasions where he claimed that two different children who died from malnutrition did not have pre-existing health conditions or diseases when they did.

Everexpanding · 18/10/2025 12:41

Would you have any links from reliable sources to corroborate your allegations @Clavinova i can’t find anything, I see that he is quoted by many reliable news orgs but no debunking? He is a paediatrician who has called out Israel as a result of the amount of malnourished children he has seen, aswell as children with sniper injuries, can see no evidence that he has presented himself as anything but a paediatrician who has witnessed bodies being brought into the hospital?

Everexpanding · 18/10/2025 13:05

Earlier report from BBC provides more evidence of why torture in Israeli prisons needs proper investigation and consequences, Thank you for reviving the thread @Clavinova

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro.amp

Handcuffed hands sit in laps of prisoners sat in a row

Blindfolded and beaten: Palestinians tell of Israeli jail abuse - BBC News

An Israeli rights group says prisons are overwhelmed, amid allegations of physical and mental violence.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro.amp

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 16:01

DrPrunesqualer · 18/10/2025 01:12

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The United Nations
The question of Palestine

“ At least 75 Palestinians have died in Israeli detention since 7 October 2023 – UN Human Rights in Occupied Palestinian Territory

17 September 2025
Israeli authorities must urgently end the systematic torture and other ill-treatment of Palestinians held in their prisons and other places of detention and protect and ensure their right to life.

Israeli authorities have deliberately imposed conditions of detention that amount to torture or other forms of ill-treatment and that have contributed to the deaths of detainees, while the culture of impunity and the denial of International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) access have predictably fostered extreme violence against Palestinians in Israeli jails.

Israeli authorities must immediately comply with the 7 September Israeli High Court of Justice decision ordering the State to improve the quantity and quality of food provided to Palestinian prisoners. The court confirmed that the conditions deliberately imposed by Israeli authorities fail to meet basic nutritional standards. The decision, however, is too late to save thousands of Palestinians from ill-treatment. Furthermore, the authorities have publicly refused to comply with the order.

The Israeli authorities have also reportedly attempted to conceal reports prepared by the Public Defender’s Office regarding the treatment of Palestinian detainees and their conditions, citing national security concerns.

Between 7 October 2023 and 31 August 2025, at least 75 Palestinians, including a 17-year-old child, have died in Israeli detention (49 from Gaza, 24 from the West Bank and 2 Palestinian citizens of Israel), according to the UN Human Rights office in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

Israeli authorities have released information indicating the death of another 19 detainees, without sufficient details to enable the verification of their identity. In addition, at least 5 Palestinians, one of them a 16-year-old child, have died while in Israeli custody shortly after being shot by Israeli security forces, in some cases following a failure to ensure prompt medical attention after the unlawful use of lethal force.

Of the 75 deaths in detention, at least 22 detainees reportedly had health conditions requiring medical attention prior to their arrest, raising concerns that the denial of such medical care coupled with harsh detention conditions may have been calculated to contribute to their deaths.

In at least 12 cases, we gathered testimonies or evidence in the form of autopsy reports that detainees died after being beaten or tortured by Israeli security forces.

We have documented the systematic torture and ill-treatment to which Israel has subjected Palestinian prisoners, including repeated beatings, waterboarding, stress positions, the use of rape and other sexual and gender-based violence and the imposition of deliberately inhumane conditions such as starvation and the denial of clean clothes, hygiene necessities and medical care.

Despite numerous calls for independent, thorough and transparent investigations, the only way to establish responsibilities and ensure accountability, the Israeli authorities have announced investigations into very few of the deaths, with no outcome known to date. Unless rebutted by investigations respecting international standards for each incident, Israel remains responsible for every single death in custody.

Meanwhile, Israeli authorities have subverted internationally recognised protections against torture, especially access to lawyers, family, and the ICRC, against the failure of Israeli courts to enforce the rights of prisoners. Israeli authorities continue to ban family visits and have imposed restrictions on lawyers’ access to detainees, subjecting interviews to surveillance, and prohibiting lawyers from sharing messages from their families.

Torture and other ill-treatment forms are a serious violation of international humanitarian law, and of international human rights law.
They amount to war crimes and may, in certain circumstances, amount to a crime against humanity.

Israel has the obligation to end all practices that amount to torture or other ill-treatment, and to protect all detainees against such practices, including by ensuring prisoners have regular access to their families, their lawyers, the courts and that independent bodies such as the ICRC conduct regular inspections of places of detention.

Israel must protect and respect the right to life of all prisoners, and must provide access to adequate medical care, including to ensure that prisoners do not die from preexisting conditions.”

Thankfully the world is well aware of the disgusting treatment by Israel of Palestinians in jail
Thankfully they don’t listen to those who deny the truth

Edited

These ‘abuse’ allegations are very different to the conditions Yahya Sinwar experienced while in Israeli prisons. HE WROTE A BOOK WHILE IN PRISON, learnt Hebrew, read Israeli newspapers and books to gain intel on Israeli society and how it thinks, was diagnosed with and treated for a brain tumour, was a leader of Hamas prisoners demanding better conditions, torturing other prisoners suspected of collaborating with Israel while in prison -

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/20/middleeast/israeli-dentist-hamas-yahya-sinwar-intl

A Palestinian terrorist murderer has previously tried to sue the Israeli prison service for not being allowed a PlayStation. What does that say about conditions in Israeli prisons?

www.israelnationalnews.com/news/375948

They seem to have a lot of hunger strikes to get Israel to give in to demands. There has been discourse in Israel about the morality of force feeding prisoners to keep them alive.

There is more evidence of the above than the allegations of mass abuse and torture which is yet again just ‘testimonies’ for propaganda to fuel this current conflict.

The conditions in prisons in other ME countries will be a lot worse than most of these terrorists have ever experienced in reality.

www.timesofisrael.com/we-saved-the-life-of-hamass-gaza-leader-says-israels-ex-prison-chief-dismissing-strikers-complaints/amp/

Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of a Hamas founder and spiritual leader, has talked a lot about how witnessing Hamas murdering and horrifically torturing Palestinians suspected of ‘collaborating’ with Israel while INSIDE prison was the reason he decided to to spy for Israel. Hamas/PIJ affiliated prisoners are segregated from other prisoners because they are so dangerous.

It is certainly more believable that Palestinians have been murdered and tortured in prison by Hamas which is then, as always, blamed on Israel than that there is mass torture being committed on Palestinians. Even more so during this war. Of course Palestinians are going to say it was Israel!

With the war and how many Palestinians suspected of involvement in Oct 7th, due to terrorism being such a large part of Palestinian society, how do the staff have time to torture them all when they are holding so many? Without doubt conditions will be bad due to the massive amount of suspected terrorists Israel are having to deal with. That’s kind of what happens in war time.

I would believe the odd isolated incident which would have been dealt with through the Israeli justice system anyway but this is ridiculous and totally unbelievable terrorist propaganda.

I mean who the actual fuck would seriously believe the ‘testimony’ of terrorists against their sworn enemy, let alone during a massive propaganda war?

He saved the life of Hamas’s leader. Then they murdered his nephew | CNN

Hamas’s surprise October 7 attacks stunned Israel. But not everyone was caught unaware. When he learned the news, Dr. Yuval Bitton says he felt it was coming – and knew immediately who was behind it.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/20/middleeast/israeli-dentist-hamas-yahya-sinwar-intl

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 16:07

Missed out a link about Sinwar’s time in prison -

www.newstatesman.com/world/middle-east/2024/10/yahya-sinwars-deadly-mission-hamas

Gloriia · 18/10/2025 16:37

'I mean who the actual fuck would seriously believe the ‘testimony’ of terrorists against their sworn enemy, let alone during a massive propaganda war?'

Indeed. Only those intellectually challenged as we see all the time with the western media who parrot these tales.

DrPrunesqualer · 18/10/2025 17:19

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 16:01

These ‘abuse’ allegations are very different to the conditions Yahya Sinwar experienced while in Israeli prisons. HE WROTE A BOOK WHILE IN PRISON, learnt Hebrew, read Israeli newspapers and books to gain intel on Israeli society and how it thinks, was diagnosed with and treated for a brain tumour, was a leader of Hamas prisoners demanding better conditions, torturing other prisoners suspected of collaborating with Israel while in prison -

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/20/middleeast/israeli-dentist-hamas-yahya-sinwar-intl

A Palestinian terrorist murderer has previously tried to sue the Israeli prison service for not being allowed a PlayStation. What does that say about conditions in Israeli prisons?

www.israelnationalnews.com/news/375948

They seem to have a lot of hunger strikes to get Israel to give in to demands. There has been discourse in Israel about the morality of force feeding prisoners to keep them alive.

There is more evidence of the above than the allegations of mass abuse and torture which is yet again just ‘testimonies’ for propaganda to fuel this current conflict.

The conditions in prisons in other ME countries will be a lot worse than most of these terrorists have ever experienced in reality.

www.timesofisrael.com/we-saved-the-life-of-hamass-gaza-leader-says-israels-ex-prison-chief-dismissing-strikers-complaints/amp/

Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of a Hamas founder and spiritual leader, has talked a lot about how witnessing Hamas murdering and horrifically torturing Palestinians suspected of ‘collaborating’ with Israel while INSIDE prison was the reason he decided to to spy for Israel. Hamas/PIJ affiliated prisoners are segregated from other prisoners because they are so dangerous.

It is certainly more believable that Palestinians have been murdered and tortured in prison by Hamas which is then, as always, blamed on Israel than that there is mass torture being committed on Palestinians. Even more so during this war. Of course Palestinians are going to say it was Israel!

With the war and how many Palestinians suspected of involvement in Oct 7th, due to terrorism being such a large part of Palestinian society, how do the staff have time to torture them all when they are holding so many? Without doubt conditions will be bad due to the massive amount of suspected terrorists Israel are having to deal with. That’s kind of what happens in war time.

I would believe the odd isolated incident which would have been dealt with through the Israeli justice system anyway but this is ridiculous and totally unbelievable terrorist propaganda.

I mean who the actual fuck would seriously believe the ‘testimony’ of terrorists against their sworn enemy, let alone during a massive propaganda war?

The UN and others including those who have access to these Israeli jails and detention centres disagree
They are clearly not isolated incidents

I would never seek to downplay the horror of what they have been experiencing for years now.

Clavinova · 18/10/2025 18:30

Everexpanding · 18/10/2025 12:41

Would you have any links from reliable sources to corroborate your allegations @Clavinova i can’t find anything, I see that he is quoted by many reliable news orgs but no debunking? He is a paediatrician who has called out Israel as a result of the amount of malnourished children he has seen, aswell as children with sniper injuries, can see no evidence that he has presented himself as anything but a paediatrician who has witnessed bodies being brought into the hospital?

Yes, I do have some links:

Dr Ahmed al-Farra, a senior doctor at the Nasser medical complex in Khan Younis, witnessed the arrival of some of the remains... [not mentioned here that he is a paediatric doctor]
They were executed. They had their hands tied,’’ Farra said. “They tied them so they were unable to move and then they killed them.”
He provided photographs he said he had taken of one of the dead on arrival at the hospital. The pictures show a hand at the end of a long-sleeved black shirt with a black cord knotted around the wrist;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/01/palestinian-paramedics-shot-by-israeli-forces-had-hands-tied-eyewitnesses-say

Photographs published by ITV (see link);

We have also interviewed Dr Ahmed al-Farra, a doctor who examined three of the bodies at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza.

"They were tightened, both hands, and we could see the kind of tight that it was," he told us. "Tightly, tightly, their hands. Not their legs, their hands. Just their hands were tied."

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-04-02/itv-news-uncovers-new-claims-that-gaza-paramedics-shot-by-idf-were-executed

Sky News investigation two weeks later - scroll down quite a long way to see an alternative photograph of the dead man's wrist and tag;

https://news.sky.com/story/two-hours-of-terror-sky-news-investigation-reveals-how-israels-deadly-attack-on-aid-workers-unfolded-13348776

Compare the Sky News photo with the ITV photo - it then becomes obvious that in the ITV photo, the name tag has been pushed along the binding so that it has been photographed upside down - with only the blank muddy side showing, which blends into the white background. Whereas in the Sky News link, the name tag has been photographed the right side up.

Read also text from the Sky News article;

Representatives of PRCS and Civil Defence, as well as a doctor [Doctor Ahmed al-Farra] who saw the bodies, have said that at least one victim was found with their hands or legs tied together - claims that Israel has denied.

Photos shared with Sky News and other media outlets as evidence of this claim do show a black plastic tie around one victim's wrist. Attached to the tie is an empty white information card.

The tie appears only on one limb, however, and sources at Red Cross and Civil Defence told us that the white tag appears to be of the kind used by emergency workers in Gaza to identify bodies.

Dr Ahmed Dahair [a different doctor] told Sky News he saw "no clear signs of physical restraints" during the post-mortem examinations.

Everexpanding · 18/10/2025 20:05

It seems that there were other witnesses who also said that hands were bound

“Another witness, an official from an international aid agency who took part in the recovery of remains from Rafah on Sunday, also said they saw evidence of one of the dead having been shot after being detained.
“I saw the bodies with my own eyes when we found them in the mass grave,” the witness, who did not want his name used for his own safety, said. “They had signs of multiple shots in the chest. One of them had legs tied. One was shot in the head. They were executed.”

The accounts add to allegations made by a senior Palestinian Red Crescent official, the Palestinian Civil Defence and the Gaza health ministry that some of the victims had been shot after they were detained and put in restraints by Israeli troops.”

I do not have enough knowledge to interpret one photo
I do hope there is a proper independent investigation into the incident I will await that.
The killing of aid workers is a war crime and the amount of lies told by the idf after this incident point towards an attempt to cover up as Ehud Olmert and Sky point out

TicklishMauveSquid · 18/10/2025 20:10

Everexpanding · 18/10/2025 13:05

Earlier report from BBC provides more evidence of why torture in Israeli prisons needs proper investigation and consequences, Thank you for reviving the thread @Clavinova

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro.amp

One of the first things that leapt out at me in that report was this -

B’tselem says the testimony their researchers have gathered is remarkably consistent.
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All of them again and again, told us the same thing,” says Yuli Novak, B’tselem’s executive director

People capable of critical thinking might wonder if that leans towards it being a script.

B’tselem may be an Israeli human rights organisation but it’s main funding comes from leftist Western organisations and it operates a clear political bias to a one State solution which is rather like turkeys looking forward to Christmas.

ngo-monitor.org/ngos/b_tselem/

Also rather telling that they featured a self admitted member of the PIJ terrorist group, heavily involved in Oct 7th, to give his ‘testimony’.

Do you not think it was pretty logical that Israel were going to detain lots of suspected and known terrorists, from a known terrorist enclave after a massive terrorist attack carried out and supported by thousands of Palestinians, like Oct 7th, when there were also hundreds of Israeli and other countries citizens taken hostage who they needed intel on the location of, and to ensure they got all the suspects and intel on the perpetrators of the mass slaughter and gang rapes?

I imagine any country in that situation would have done the same.

The influx of suspects, which is actually damning on Palestinian society and the support for terrorism IMO, would have had an overwhelming and negative effect on conditions and the severity of how they were dealt with after an attack like Oct 7th?

How do you think Egypt or Jordan would have dealt with thousands of terrorist suspects in their prisons if the Palestinians had carried out an Oct 7th style attack there?

The ICRC showing their disgusting bias claiming they haven’t been able to check on terrorists welfare, when they refused to check on or give essential medication to innocent Israeli and international citizen hostages ‘consciously defying international law’ in that article.