What was the purpose of this level of destruction?

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Gazans are returning to their homes and are horrified to see the level of destruction. Their joy mixed with despair.

www.timesofisrael.com/gazans-joy-over-ceasefire-tempered-by-shock-as-they-return-to-destroyed-homes/

We can feel joy that the hostages are returning home, relief that Hamas will be sidelined - but how do we reconcile with the death and destruction that has happened in Gaza?

This is a derail but
GENOCIDE info

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says
Video caption, Navi Pillay: "The committee concluded that Israel has committed genocide against the Palestinian people"
Article Information
Author, David Gritten
Role,
Reporting from London
Author, Imogen Foulkes
Role,
Reporting from Geneva
16 September 2025

A United Nations commission of inquiry says Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.
A new report says there are reasonable grounds to conclude that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out since the start of the war with Hamas in 2023: - killing members of a group, - causing them serious bodily and mental harm,
-deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to destroy the group,
-and preventing births.

It cites statements by Israeli leaders, and the pattern of conduct by Israeli forces, as evidence of genocidal intent.

At least 64,964 people have been killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry, whose figures are seen as reliable by the UN.

Most of the population has also been
-repeatedly displaced;
-more than 90% of homes are estimated to be damaged or destroyed;
-the healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed;
-and UN-backed food security experts have declared a famine in Gaza City.

IMAGE SOURCE, REUTERS
Image caption, The mother of a Palestinian teenager killed by Israeli fire mourns during his funeral at a hospital in Gaza City in August

The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory was established by the UN Human Rights Council in 2021 to investigate all alleged violations of international humanitarian and human rights law.

The three-member expert panel is chaired by Navi Pillay, a South African former UN human rights chief who was president of the international tribunal on Rwanda's genocide. The two other members are Chris Sidoti, an Australian human rights lawyer, and Miloon Kothari, an Indian expert on housing and land rights.

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To kill off all means by which Palestinians can support themselves
To eradicate their history and connection to their land
To break them

Just because you keep repeating the word “genocide “ does not make it so.

Absolutely. Break everything they have.

(For full disclosure 16% of Arabs are allergic to the Olive tree pollen)

Well of course you would say this.
Isn’t one of the so called examples a bogus group of so called top scholars who have claimed this.

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Look it up yourself. I’ve given evidence
No one cares if you just can’t bring yourself to accept reality

That’s it keep repeating the word “genocide”.
Do you feel any better yet.
Do you think if you keep repeating the word it makes it true.

If you read it you might get some insight into how malnutrition affects the most vulnerable first. I take it you have not heard doctors reporting on the condition of their patients. For example how wounds which should heal don’t, or how children can look se real years younger than they are through stunted growth.

https://news.sky.com/story/palestinian-girl-12-dies-after-suffering-from-malnutrition-for-months-13449071

The Lancet
January 1 2024 - August 15 2025

After nearly 2 years of war and severe restrictions in humanitarian aid, tens of thousands of preschool-aged children in the Gaza Strip are suffering from preventable acute malnutrition and facing an increased risk of mortality.

Screen shot of graph
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/malnourished-kids-gaza-study-9.6933722

Can you imagine our children desperately holding out their empty pan to get that soup ladled in to take back to feed a whole family Did you not see them? Were they just being greedy given they must have already had plenty?

When the 4 Gaza Humanitarian Foundation points were set up How could women and children walk miles and miles through the night to one very dangerous food points then carry it home?

Even the men on the streets are certainly far thinner than men in the U.K. Look at their arms and protruding cheekbones. These men also evidently thought it worth walking for hours and risking their lives at the four Gaza humanitarian aid points. 2600 got shot dead and many more wounded while queuing for food. Presumably they did this because they were very hungry.

In such chaos whether or not a person could reach scarce resources, or afford it if a looter were selling it, would depend on their circumstances and where in Gaza they were. Some would be far less able to than others.

The Arabs have lived among the olive trees in Palestine for many generations which is why they have much greater tolerance.

Apparently it is similar in Australia where the indigenous population is also less affected.

66% of Jews are not allergic to olive pollen.

66% of Jews who have a respiratory allergy are allergic to olive pollen. Not the same thing at all.

The research abstract is available on a simple search.

I don’t think they look thin at all. I’m yet to see a video of celebrating Gazans that look noticeably thin. This famine is alleged to have gone on for many months now, and while I appreciate there probably isn’t the abundance and choice of food they would like due to supply chain problems, you would expect all people to look reasonably thin if not slightly emaciated. Why don’t they?

As for ‘looking thinner than the UK’ the UK is notoriously obese and Gazans are less likely to be obese to start with (60% versus 21%). So they were slimmer to start with and even more vulnerable to weight loss.

It just doesn’t add up. I feel like people are going to start posting mind bending ‘facts’ as to why an apparently starved population has seen an isolated group of 30 people malnourish to the extent they look like a charity video from the 1980s, but the rest of the population maintain a healthy weight and good energy levels.

In every other famine, every person after months is noticeably thin and the children and almost unanimously malnourished. Why is Gaza an exception? Are they trying to amalgamate famine with food insecurity?

Do you have any stats on your thoughts as @ScrollingLeaves has provided some and those on the ground have declared it.

How odd that people native to the UK for generations should get hay fever, my immunologist brother tells me it's a little more complicated than that.

Hamas publically executed 8 blindfolded people in Gaza city last night. They rule the Palestinians by fear.

Does anyone really believe they didn't know exactly what they were doing using innocent people and innocent people's homes to shield the war machine that was dedicated to eradicating the Israeli population?
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This conflict was never about Statehood, it was about wiping Israel off the face of the earth.
Hamas are gone - they have lost the war and this point in time will be the best opportunity for the Palestinian’s to build a much better and peaceful future 🕊️🕊️🕊️

Hamas are gone?

Link please?

Yes I was thinking the same

Will be fine.

You think any of us care what our grandparents did in the war

Why don't Palestine people put this on social media?

Yes, I do think people care

People have no idea what it means

They are over in the sense of their military capability - all their infrastructure has gone. There are obviously a few remaining die hard Hamas fighters left who are turning on the uprising from the Palestinian militias and clans who are anti hamas that have been armed by the IDF. This is perfectly normal practice in a time of war.

The de-radicalisation will commence once this stage of the tidy up programme is completed.
For further insights into the military conflict see https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/colonel-john-spencer-the-best-military-breakdown-of/id1727337401?i=1000731355744&utm_source=chatgpt.com

The stand out point made to me was his emphasis on the Israeli army held responsible for the welfare of the citizens of the the opposing side. He emphatically stated that in all the conflicts around the world, in the last 100 years this has never EVER happened.
Feeding, watering, providing medical care/ including vaccination programmes/ water Infastructure rebuilinding etc - its completely unheard of and yet pro Hamas supporters, continue to acuse Isreal of genocide. It is utter madness!