Hamas targeting groups and clans in Gaza

[Twiglets1]

Hamas appears to be preparing to exact vengeance on those opposed to its rule in Gaza. This will come in the form of mafia-like murders of those Hamas claims are “collaborators.” It will target clans and groups that have shown opposition to Hamas. It will also target those that have worked with Israel, or who it accuses of working with Israel.

A Telegram channel linked to Hamas said the group would target “collaborators.”

The BBC reported that “Hamas recalls 7,000 fighters to reassert control over Gaza as fears of renewed internal violence emerge following the withdrawal of Israeli forces. The mobilisation has been widely anticipated as uncertainty grows about who will govern Gaza once the war ends - this is a key sticking point for later phases of Trump's plan.”

Hamas has long used mafia-like gangland tactics to keep people in check in Gaza. This goes back to how the group emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Hamas leaders such as Yahya Sinwar were known for brutally murdering “collaborators” back then. Sinwar is dead but his tactics live on. Hamas has lost a lot of its larger weapons but it retains AK-47s and can use them to murder people. Videos have already emerged of Hamas allegedly murdering people.

The brutality of the organization has also been revealed in a New York Times article that shows how Sinwar and Hamas planned to murder Israelis and burn communities on October 7.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-870096

It’s just all so bizarre, it’s like they’re not even pretending anymore.
I read on X earlier today that Hamas executed two young boys and their mother because their father was allegedly a collaborator.
At the same time there seems to be an attempt going on to ramp up the narrative about Greta being mistreated while in captivity, almost like to distract from Hamas’ actions.

You should post those links for the pro-pallies to see who they are supporting.

At the same time there seems to be an attempt going on to ramp up the narrative about Greta being mistreated while in captivity, almost like to distract from Hamas’ actions.

That's some of the worst fiction I've read for a while. Keeps changing as well.

Have you seen it too? One thing they mention is that an Israeli flag was placed next to Greta and every time the flag touched her (or the other way round?) she was kicked? I’ve come that particular one couple of times now 😵‍💫

I’m sorry to do this but Greta is mentally unstable (she has bipolar and is very open about this) and in absolutely no place to attempt to enter a war zone to ‘try to help’. She isn’t right, you can tell by looking at her. I think she’s being exploited actually.

That's vile. Even if their dad did 'collaborate' (whatever that means , seems to be a term used for anyone opposing Hamas) why kill the mother and child.

Yes, I find myself rather glad she wasn't able to get anywhere more dangerous.

It certainly does sound vile.
I don’t know if it’s been confirmed yet, but this is where I read it:

x.com/HowidyHamza/status/1978565985738117391

Hamza

@HowidyHamza

HORRIFIC: Gazans reported that Hamas executed the two children, Yussef Hassan Abu Ajwa and his brother Zaid Hassan Abu Ajwa, and their mother, Ulfat Jihad Ab Ajwa, because their father, Hassan Ab Ajwa, joined the anti-Hamas militias operating in the Strip.

He says he's a peace advocate and perhaps some other posters here may have heard of him?

I haven’t heard him but he seems authentic and credible from the posts I’ve read on his feed. This pattern would fit with Hamas actions in the past too.

At least we all seem to be in agreement that children should never be targeted in conflict.

I've followed him for ages. He's pretty sharply critical of Israel too, so no-one can accuse him of being a "Zionist shill" or whatever.

You can't seriously believe this?

x.com/afalkhatib/status/1979223395020739073?t=Fik7MhuHvNurcEMQjlReLQ&s=19

"Hamas is looking for the bodies of Israeli hostages in Gaza by digging for tunnels that it placed under an entire residential city where there were thousands of apartments. This is under the Qatari-built Hamad City in Khan Younis, southern Gaza. Hamas gave itself the right to use every inch of the Strip as a theater for its horrendous terrorism, placing its operatives and infrastructure under homes, hospitals, schools, and every imaginable space. This isn't just Israeli propaganda - this is the absolute, shitty, unpleasant, and brutal truth that all Gazans know and understand, but is somehow refuted by "activists" and "journalists" who run cover for Hamas.

What you're looking at is the inevitable future of Gaza if Qatar is allowed to dominate the reconstruction process once again: tunnels will go through and under Qatari-sponsored infrastructure that becomes a breeding ground for Hamas's terrorism."

All those people who have been screaming that Israel was bombing out of genicidal intentions, do they see now?
Bear in mind they warned civilians to leave before the bombing campaigns (although that was apparently ethnic cleansing).

All those people who have been screaming that Israel was bombing out of genicidal intentions, do they see now?

See what exactly? That there are tunnels? I never doubted that there was tunnels. It is widely known and documented. And it seems the tunnels are still there. It’s only the hospitals, schools, sewage systems, water treatment, farmland and homes that have been destroyed.

Should we talk about how Hamas have again headquartered themselves in a hospital, and used ambulances to disguise themselves on one of their recent murder spree?

Don't be silly. Of course they don't do bad things like that.

What don't you understand about the fact that the tunnels were built underneath hospitals, schools, homes?

That to destroy the tunnels the IDF had to first destroy the buildings above them?

No I don’t see that. They have destroyed 90% of the buildings but only 25% of the tunnels.

So no. I don’t think that was their only goal.

People here seem to think that if only we realised how uniquely awful Hamas are that we’d overlook Israel’s war crimes. that we’d realise why they had to kill, maim and starve Palestinian civilians.

You can take a horse to water etc @Twiglets1

That’s exactly what I think yes. Hamas are uniquely awful.

Of course more buildings are destroyed than tunnels as the IDF have to destroy buildings before they can even start work on destroying the tunnels.

It has been pointed out so many times that if Hamas didn’t hide underneath buildings, far less of Gaza would now be destroyed.

But sure if so many tunnels remain, how was it ever realistic to destroy the tunnels in this manner? According to the US “destroying Hamas” was never a realistic goal of the war and this is an example of why they came to that conclusion.

There are also investigations by newspapers, and human rights organisations that many operations that killed civilians had no stated military goal. And many more that show that civilian deaths were not proportionate to the military advantage.

I know you think that Hamas are so uniquely awful that Israel couldn’t possibly abide by any rules of war and that civilian death was necessary to make Israel “safe”. But even if we could accept that sometimes civilian life shouldn’t be protected, there is simply too much evidence that Israel had other goals in this war that had nothing to do with Hamas and more to do with, at best, utterly destroying Palestinian society.

That’s why it has been important for Israel to portray the falsehood that there are no innocents in Gaza. To justify the destruction and deaths.

What were Israels other goals?

I know you think that Hamas are so uniquely awful that Israel couldn’t possibly abide by any rules of war and that civilian death was necessary to make Israel “safe”. But even if we could accept that sometimes civilian life shouldn’t be protected, there is simply too much evidence that Israel had other goals in this war that had nothing to do with Hamas and more to do with, at best, utterly destroying Palestinian society.

As awful as it is, it's not actually illegal or a war crime to have civilian deaths in a war, and I wonder if people misunderstand this point and hence the genocide accusations?
It's not legal to explicity target civilians obviously, but that's viewed separately to collatoral deaths.

That being said, despite the accusations, Israel did in general go to a lot of effort to avoid or minimise civilian casualties by pre-warning the populations to leave areas that were due to be heavily targeted. If you look at the number of deaths relative to the destruction, they were successful at it, too. And also bear in mind that many of those deaths will have been Hamas fighters.

Do you have evidence of the "other goals" of destroying Palestinian society? Because pre 7 October 2023, it was the opposite. More work visas were being issues to Gazans, the security was easing - Hamas took advantage of that in the worst way possible.

I'm still not sure what people actually expected Israel to do after 7 October? Just be like oh well?

I think its very clear that that is exactly what people expected Israel to do.

@Dagda the tunnels needed to be destroyed and still do. More tunnels were still being discovered right up until the ceasefire.

Senior IDF commanders still consider the tunnels to be a "major weapon" and stress that dismantling them remains a top priority.

Israel Defense Forces Res. Brigadier General Danny Van Buren says the eradication of the Hamas tunnels “is a major part of demilitarization of the Gaza Strip.

“In order to keep the ceasefire and put a foundation for peace in place, one necessary part is to eliminate Hamas infrastructure.

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has said after the safe return of all 20 remaining living hostages Monday, the next phase is “the destruction of all of Hamas’ terror tunnels in Gaza.”

https://nypost.com/2025/10/13/world-news/idf-leaders-warn-hamas-tunnels-in-gaza-are-still-a-major-weapon-and-need-to-be-destroyed/